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Are you still using your 14mm f2.5?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by MDRV6, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. MDRV6

    MDRV6 Mu-43 Rookie

    Dec 18, 2015
    I was curious if I was the only one who thinks this way. I originally purchased this lens because I really liked the size and weight. But whenever I use it, I'm reminded that at normal distances I can get very similar images with my iphone because of the similar angle of view and lack of shallow depth of field. At which point, I just put my 17mm f1.8 back on my camera.

    Obviously m43 sensor size is much bigger than on an iphone, so overall quality should be better, but the iphone's image quality never bothered me.
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  2. Bushboy

    Bushboy Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Apr 22, 2018
    An interesting question.
    I have never wanted one of these, never had one either.
    I goes for peanuts on the used market. The kit zoom is like f3.5, mabee that's why?
  3. agentlossing

    agentlossing Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jun 26, 2013
    Andrew Lossing
    I like the 28mm "look" which is why I have a dedicated camera (Ricoh GR) in that focal length. It's not for everyone, however if you really grow to know it well, it provides some very effective effects (look up videos on pulling the subject in/pushing the subject out based on where you place yourself in relation to the subject). Lots of folks like the 14mm f2.5 for its fast focus, tiny size and good IQ. I owned it for a little while years ago but I think my copy was bad.
  4. MDRV6

    MDRV6 Mu-43 Rookie

    Dec 18, 2015
    @agentlossing@agentlossing I actually like the 28mm look also but my issue is that I can get that from my iPhone. It kind of gives me a 2 lens, 2 body set up. 35mm with the 17mm and 28mm with the iphone. I was also contemplating on purchasing a GR but realized I could probably be ok with the 14mm and my newly acquired GX85 which again leads me to the iphone These thoughts make me go in circles. I'll look into the pull the subject in effect you talked about. Sounds interesting and maybe it'll get me into shooting with the 14mm more.

    @Bushboy@Bushboy It's funny you mention that. That's the reason I don't use the kit lens either. The images look similar enough to my iphone because of the speed of the kit lens. I do like the 12-32 though because it does offer a focal length the iphone doesn't provide.

    As an aside 14mm + gx85 balances great when hanging from a neck strap. 14mm + em5II is back heavy.
  5. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 27, 2015
    Now that I have my 12-32 pancake for my G9, I haven't used it for ages. I used it an awful lot on my GX8, it was the very first lens i bought for it, and I managed to find an old stock Panasonic 3 lens adapter kit for it (ultrawide, fisheye and macro) I really loved that setup, probably goes a fair way to explaining why I've been reluctant to part with it.
  6. Mattyh

    Mattyh Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 14, 2013
    Stoke on Trent
    I’ve still the same one from my GF1 days and still love it and use it regularly now, in fact if I had to only use one lens this would be it.
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  7. agentlossing

    agentlossing Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jun 26, 2013
    Andrew Lossing
    @MDRV6@MDRV6 I don't consider iPhone shots to be necessarily comparable, since I can achieve lots more creative options using a real camera with manual settings, raw files with lots of data, etc. Hence I've decided to go expensive with my compact camera and cheap with my smartphone. Final expenditure is about the same as if I had purchased a top of the line smartphone.
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  8. MDRV6

    MDRV6 Mu-43 Rookie

    Dec 18, 2015
    @agentlossing@agentlossing I like my real cameras, but without fail whenever I get a new iphone, I feel like I can stop using my normal gear. You can shoot raw and use manual settings with an iPhone, though there is really only one aperture setting per lens. You can arguably be just as creative with an iPhone. This is another black hole I find myself in. Even though I can shoot raw with the iPhone, I always choose not to because of "live photos." I love seeing the context of the photos. I'm guessing it's because I really only take pictures of my family these days, and I like seeing (and hearing!) what they were doing before and after the picture is taken.
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  9. ma401

    ma401 Mu-43 Regular Subscribing Member

    Jan 9, 2019
    I just received my 14mm f2.5 in the mail the other day, coincidentally just days after breaking my 12-32mm. It went right on the E-PM2 and I've been happily snapping away - mostly indoors and mostly in poor light. I really enjoy setting my camera to monotone colour and cranking the ISO way up..mostly I am using it like a M4/3 version of my Ricoh GRD.

    It's a great lens and a great focal length, the depth of field at f2.5 is plenty for most of what I shoot and I find myself rarely touching the aperture setting. It is making for a great companion to my E-PM2, this lens is wonderfully small and light and quick focusing. I actually like it more than the 12-32mm but that may be due to my familiarity with the focal length.
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  10. JG Hall

    JG Hall Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 21, 2018
    Yup. Absolutely love it. I feel between the Panasonic 14/2.5 and 25/1.7 I have an equilibrium. I love using both as they're my favourite focal lenghts.

    Still haven't bit the bullet on a 15mm because I'd miss the size of the 14
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  11. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    14/GWC1 is always with me when I am using the PL100-400 or the 60mm macro. Great lens actually.
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  12. rloewy

    rloewy Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 5, 2014
    I do not use it often, but every once in a while I snap it on my E-PL7 for a tiny package and I am reminded what a good lens it is.
  13. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 27, 2015
    It's a great little lens for sure. It cops a bit of criticism for having as fair amount of CA at times, but there are far more expensive lenses that aren't any better :) 
    I've written it before, but it wouldn't surprise me if Sigma or Leica had a little bit of input into the design. It's got that lovely, contrasty, rich look to the files it produces. Get close to your subject, and the OOF background is quite nice. Shame that it cops the "kit lens" stigma
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  14. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman Subscribing Member

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    personally hate the shooting experience with an iphone... it doesn't suit my way of shooting... its way too fiddly

    I had the 14 before i got the 17, and it has only been in the last couple of years that I started using the 14 again.

    Its not a lens I would ever get rid of... its a perfect pairing with my E-PL6

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    Think I would have struggled to get those shots from an iphone.

    more here

    Panasonic 14mm

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  15. That little lens has delivered some nice images for me. I have a Fuji wide converter for it also. I like the longer end of the lens most often but when I need wide, I call in the 14 2.5.
  16. Egregius V

    Egregius V Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    Jun 14, 2015
    Massachusetts, USA
    Rev. Gregory Vozzo
    My interest in the 14mm prime is still evolving. I bought it to form a pocketable set of sharp primes along with a 20mm or 25mm and a 45mm. That's about the only way I've been using it. I tend to rely too much on a zoom for quick shots - especially the 14-150 II, which can let me down at 14mm. This spring, I want to pit that 14mm prime against my 7-14, 9-18, and 12-32 for a variety of landscape shots. It's time I varied my kit more.
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  17. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman Subscribing Member

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    As always a lot is dependant on each photographers expectations and of their intended outcome

    Personally I have little interest in shooting landscape, have little interest in the finer details of resolution. All I seek are capturing the images that satisfy my particular tastes
  18. davidzvi

    davidzvi Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    I used it a lot before the 12-32 came out. Then I used it for a while again until I got my X70. Then I sold.

    Still a wonderful lens, I actually like it better than the 15mm (I know I'm odd).
  19. MarylandUSA

    MarylandUSA Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    Jul 3, 2013
    Poolesville, Maryland
    Paul Franklin Stregevsky
    I still use mine, but only as the host for two conversion lenses: a Fujifilm 0.76x wide-angle and a Sony fisheye. These three optics are my "big kit" counterparts to my two everyday-belt-pouch pancakes: 17mm f/2.8 and 9mm f/8.
  20. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    Don't see much different between my 14 and 12-35 @ 14mm.

    The 14's size and ability to go wide with the GWC1 make it a keeper for me.
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