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Are you seeing what I'm seeing? Color managed web browsing!

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by Amin Sabet, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    For those of us who aren't using Safari as a browser, I highly recommend Firefox 3.x with this color management add-on if you want to see colors the way they were meant to be seen. It can make a big difference.

    Safari users have color management enabled by default :wink:.
     
  2. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Yeah Amin... I'm seeing colors...
    Oh man am I seeing colors....

    I thought that was embedded in the newest Firefox update last week...
    What say you?
     
  3. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Is it enabled by default now in Firefox? That would be news to me.
     
  4. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    I will check when I get home this afternoon. Have you updated and checked it?
     
  5. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    Well, I've just downloaded and enabled the module in my Firefox 3.6 and it didn't complain...

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  6. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus

    Thanks for this thread. BillN should have a field day in here.:biggrin:

    I'm used to Safari and have always been comfortable with it. Just can't get used to Firefox... I guess I'm an old dog, of sorts.
     
  7. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    I believe that IE 7 also has color management disabled by default, and AFAIK IE 8 doesn't support color management yet.
     
  8. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    While we're on the subject of useful Firefox add-ons, remember to install this EXIF viewer... very useful.

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  9. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    If in doubt, save your images for web display in sRGB colour space.

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  10. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Definitely save web images in sRGB so that those using color profile unaware browsers (most people) will be seeing the right colors.

    The problem is, most people don't intentionally save web images in sRGB, and not all applications do this by default, so if one uses a color profile unaware browser, you never know whether you're seeing the right colors. An image converted to and saved as Adobe RGB will look very dull if viewed in an unmanaged browser.
     
  11. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    My PC has really slowed down since the last Firefox update .. to 3.6

    When I close Firefox it appears to "shut down" but it never does and I have to do a Ctrl Alt Delete job and shut it down manually

    The iMac should arrive tomorrow or the day after and I plan to use it almost exclusively for photo stuff
     
  12. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    Bill, I had a clash with AVG antivirus and Firefox 3.6 I think... uninstalled AVG and bought PC Tools + antivirus instead.

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  13. Christilou

    Christilou Mu-43 Top Veteran

    657
    Feb 25, 2010
    Camberley, Surrey
    sRGB

    I don't know if this is relevant to the ongoing thread but since d p Review enabled the uploading of files into their Gallery, I have found that any image that I have uploaded from Aperture has the wrong colour signature when I view it myself in d p Review. I am using the sRGB colour profile and wonder if that means that everyone else is seeing the horrible colours that I am? They look fine in Aperture, upload them and they look green and dull and not at all as I intended. Can anyone shed any light on this?
     
  14. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus

    I can't, but thankfully mine look exactly the same here as they do on Aperture on my computer. I don't blame you for being surprised and upset.
     
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  15. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    Brian thanks - I think maybe I need a good DEFRAG

    I use Zone Alarm

    I have downloaded this colour management thing and installed it - is the default on automatically - or do I have to enable it somewhere?
     
  16. hanzo

    hanzo Mu-43 Veteran

    341
    Jan 22, 2010
    Chan
    You can try to disable AVG plugin for browser.. that slows things down.. I think.
    Nowadays I use Chrome.. too bad they don`t have extensive plugins support.
     
  17. alessandro

    alessandro Mu-43 Regular

    153
    Jan 29, 2010
    Tried it, but on my mac it doesn't seem to work properly. Still different from safari color management (which is correct).
     
  18. squeegee

    squeegee Mu-43 Veteran

    403
    Jan 26, 2010
    firefox 3.6 has colour management on by default. If you read the docs for that plugin, it's just a gui interface for switching it on and off.

    It's causing some web sites/apps headaches... web pages that use images and coloured html mixed are looking all off.

    The reason is pictures/images get colour correction, html does not. As a result the 2 - same colour items won't look the same anymore.

    There's a bunch of information on this if you do a web search. It's definitely on in the newer firefoxes by default. (was available on the older firefoxes but off by default)

    And for anyone who's wondering, the fix for it for images on web sites, is to delete the icc colour profile embedded in the images.

    reference : http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/color-correction/
     
  19. goldenlight

    goldenlight Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 30, 2010
    Essex
    John
    Don't we all, Bill - whoops, for a moment I though you said a good....... well never mind, that's what comes of being dyslexic. :blush:
     
  20. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Ah, thanks for clarifying that. Information gets dated so quickly. I'm right now on a machine with FF 3.5.8, and it seems that this one is color managed by default as well (I have done nothing to enable it but it is definitely managed). Not sure what version they made it the default.

    If anyone wants to know whether the browser they are using is color managed, this tutorial will show you.
     
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