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Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by Jock Elliott, Jun 16, 2017.
Ideally, I would like one that is no larger than the 17mm f/1.8.
Nope, none of the smaller ones are sealed.
There is no small, sealed lens. The options for short FL falls to the Olympus lenses - 7-14, 12-40, 12-50, 12-100, 8mm fisheye - none of which can be called small, or the Panny 12-35 which is probably the smallest.
Of course Fuji has small sealed primes, but no smaller sealed cameras. So you can't really win.
And the primes often aren't *that* small.
Sadly, these are the 3 smallest options in the system for weather-sealed lenses. Unfortunately, none come close to the 17/1.8.
Compact Camera Meter
I really wish there was a small weather-sealed prime in the 17-25mm range, with an f/1.7 or f/2 aperture. It's the only thing I desire from the Fuji ecosystem.
I forgot to mention the new Panny 12-60.
Well, here's what I really want: the smallest possible weather-resistant camera with a viewfinder . . . one that is small enough to sling by hip for everyday carry. I have the OMD EM5 and the OMD EM5II, but the 12-50 and 14-150 are both weather-resistant for everyday carry.
Not a single one of the so-called "rugged" cameras has a viewfinder.
Have you considered the Pentax line? The K-series APS-C DSLRs are very compact for what they are. Pentax has a very similar design aesthetic/principle to Olympus.
(P.S. if you want really serious weather sealing, I would advise you to stick with Olympus or Pentax. Just based on my experience.)
I think you might be onto something: Compact Camera Meter
It's been a long time since I used Pentax so I don't know what the current go-to minimal kit would be, but I think you might find something there!
Maybe you can still find a Tough TG-870? The newest Tough models seemed to have dropped the viewfinder.
In mft, the E-M5 and/or G85 with one of the mentioned lenses (12-35, 12-60) will be the smallest.
You could go to something like the Sony RX cameras. Those aren't small either.
For what it's worth, I had a Pentax K-S2 (with the 18-135mm WR lens). I bought it for the weather-sealing, and the fully-articulated screen, and to see what improvements an APS-C sensor supposedly had, and for DSLR AF.
I ended up selling it on. I couldn't get along with the ergonomics; the viewfinder is big by APS-C DSLR standards, but small by modern mirrorless standards; the continuous AF was really no better than on my CDAF M4/3 cameras; the Live View was extremely clunky; the lack of a touchscreen was a bummer operationally; and the image quality was not really a big step up from my GX7. I needed to convince myself to use it instead of my GX7, and when I realized that, it had to go. The weather-sealing was great, though.
Personally I'm thinking that either the GX9 or the E-M5 III will be the holy grail for me, and I'll never need to buy another camera after that. The E-M1 II and GH5 are basically uber-cameras that can do everything I need and much, much more, I just need to wait for that tech to trickle down into smaller, more affordable form factors over the next year or two.
Thanks for the insight. I think I could be perfectly happy with an OMD EM5 or EM5II with a weather resistant pancake lens, even as large as the 17mm f/1.8.
Maybe we should start a movement to bug Olympus about the need for a small WR prime. (Shades of Arlo Guthrie: "and if a hundred people a day email Olympus crying for a WR prime, they might think it's a movement . . . )
The Oly 60 is sealed. Small enough?
Nikon 1 AW1? Ah, no, no EVF either...
Fuji XT with a 23mm f2 is probably your best bet, but it's a system switch, and not a cheap camera body: Compact Camera Meter
RX10/II is not small if you only need a short zoom range or a prime, but if you consider it can replace a 12-35/35-100 f2.8 lens combo, it's pretty dang compact.
The RX100 series are not sealed, sadly.