FYI the full version of Bridge come with Elements 9 for the Mac, and iPhoto 10 does just fine by me and my Panasonic G2 so if you have iLife 11 it is even better.and also picked up a copy of Elements 9
I recently upgraded to Aperture 3 specifically for the GF1 RAW support (RW2). Not that Aperture is any better in UI, but I'm so tired of Adobe products shouting at you "You must work and think this way ..." that I'm putting LR and PS up on the top shelf.i'm a total machead and i went LR2 (haven't upgraded yet). But for me it was easy decision as Aperture did not support the GF1 at the time (does it yet?).
My dad, on the other hand, loves Aperture.
I hate the UI in LR2. I can never figure out how to do anything in it, despite being a programmer and mac user since they first came out. And there is no built in help - instead I have to go to the web, and I haven't found a good way to use their help system there. I get a long of articles in response to my query, and the answer is often easiest found in one that wasn't even written by Adobe. We're talking about simple stuff like "I'm using the crop tool and I want to see the dimensions I'm cropping to as I do it, so that I can crop to specific dimensions".
I'm sure it's partly lack of experience with Adobe products. People who used their stuff for years probably have some accumulated intuition that gets them in tune with the UI. But for a first-timer it really blows.
There you go! LOL ...UI is of course in the eye of the beholder. I bought Aperture3 shorlty after my post above, and now just a few hours later I am already more proficient in it than I was in LR2.
So my advice is: if you hate LR2 UI, it may be worth the $80 to cheeck out Aperture3.
They're more full featured programs in terms of editing and organizing. I've never used LR but I moved from iPhoto to Aperture last spring and its night and day in terms of the editing capabilities and like night and dawn (or dusk) in terms of organization.I'm not really very "with it" as far as post processing goes but I've just upgraded my old C2D MacBook to Snow Leopard, so I'm in the position having a nice clean hard drive, and also picked up a copy of Elements 9 which I've installed but not used yet.
So what does Aperture or Lightroom offer me that Elements or iPhoto (which I think is part of the optional iLife purchase) doesn't?
sorry to hear that. my iMac is also circa 2007 (august aluminum version). i haven't tried Aperture on it yet. i ended up going with Lightroom 3 because my fiancee has a PC laptop and LR's cross platform ability really sealed the deal for me. (well, almost sealed... i still have about a week left on my trial before i buy it.) Lightroom 3 runs great on my iMac, btw. (24" 2.8GHz core 2 duo, 3GB Ram).just my 2 pence here but really if ur MAC is old DON'T GET IT. My Imac is a 2007 and it can't run the program. Gutted as did work for about 1 week then it went down hill from there
Thanks for that. I only asked because my use of photo editing software really is near 0%. I had an older version of elements (possibly 4) on my iBook, before I got my MacBook, I probably put less than 5 photo's through it and this was back in 2006/7. So whilst I am essentially a virgin to it all, I thought I'd see which programme I might be best investing some time in. Am sure Elements will keep me happy for the foreseeable future though :smile:They're more full featured programs in terms of editing and organizing. I've never used LR but I moved from iPhoto to Aperture last spring and its night and day in terms of the editing capabilities and like night and dawn (or dusk) in terms of organization.
If you're running an OLD MacBook, you may have a world of trouble with Aperture 3. Sounds like it runs a lot better on the newer models. I have a one year old iMac and it runs flawlessly and others with newer macs have said the same. But I've seen lots of people with older macs having all sorts of problems with Ap3 crashing, locking up, etc. So try the trial version, but you might not be able to do much with it unless/until you upgrade your mac.
I find a lot of people seem to use Aperture. Plenty of Pro's seem to mention they use it. Namely because the vast majority of well-known ones seem to be mac users.cheap as it is probably now "losing out" to LR - maybe a poll on this forum would tell us if this is true
Yeah, except Aperture is $80 for anyone =) I did like it better than LR, but I moved back to a PC. And performance of Aperture was far too dependent on a GPU I could not upgrade (iMac). And at $80, for any newer machine, it is certainly hard to argue for LR at $300 if you don't have an edu discount.Just a reminder if you can get an educational discount then LR3 can be had for $80. Apparently it dropped it from $90 to match Aperture.
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