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Anybody think M43 needs more telephoto lenses?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Jonathan F/2, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    Does anyone want more telephoto lenses for M43? I know the 35-100 is coming and the 75 is out, but I'd love to see Olympus release their 50-200 2.8-3.5 converted to M43 or maybe an updated 100-300, made to X lens specs with fixed barrel length, digital zoom and optimized long end sharpness (100-275?).

    So any other telephoto junkies wanting some more long lenses? :wink:
  2. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 16, 2012
    I will be happy with the 35-100. I only had a 70-200 on full frame and hardly used that.
  3. hkpzee

    hkpzee Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 5, 2011
    Hong Kong
    I have said it many times before, but I'll say it again: I'd love to see an m4/3 version of the 50-200 f/2.8-3.5...
  4. shizlefonizle

    shizlefonizle Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 21, 2012
    already planning on picking up the 35-100mm. I actually use the 100-300mm quite often so an updated one like Jonathan mentioned would be great. But since I use the 100-300mm at 300 most of the time, a 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 prime would be awesome (although itll probably never happen).
  5. danska

    danska Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 21, 2012
    Portland, OR
    I'd like a long telephoto prime. Even a zoom that is optimized for the long end like you are saying. One of the rumors this morning was saying Panasonic might be releasing a new telephoto lens. Something beyond 200mm with a relatively fast aperture would be great.

    Got to tell you Jonathan, using my Minolta 100 2.5 or 135 2.8 with the 2x extender isn't nearly as good as the 100-300. Without the 2x converter they are pretty decent lenses.
  6. Promit

    Promit Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 6, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Promit Roy
    God, yes. All of our telephotos suck. A 50-200 2.8-3.5 would be miraculous. Hell, the next lenses out of Olympus should be m4/3 recreations of the 12-60 and 50-200. That'd put any talk of NEX killing m4/3 to sleep in no time.
  7. scarbrd

    scarbrd Mu-43 Regular

    Jul 1, 2011
    Houston, TX
    Primes! 150mm 2.0 and/or 200mm 2.8 and native 1.4x and 2x converters.
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  8. SZRimaging

    SZRimaging Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 16, 2011
    Yeah, I would love a 150mm f2 or f2.8 and maybe a 100mm f2. That 150mm though would be a great lens for sports.
  9. danska

    danska Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 21, 2012
    Portland, OR
    Fast enough primes like that with convertors would be excellent. I don't mind using a prime telephoto, I just want it to be sharp. 100mm is too short in my mind for what I really want.

    I wonder if you could use a teleconvertor on the 35-100mm? Still only dropping the aperture to 5.6, not too bad in a pinch.
  10. blue

    blue Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 1, 2010
    Yes, or better still a 250 or 300 2.8.
  11. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    Hi Joe,

    I've also tried the 100 & 135 route (with Nikon MF glass) and to be honest, the 100-300 is pretty good, but I'd definitely like to see the same improvements done to the 45-175 X. Optically that lens is rock solid (besides any OIS issues).
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  12. Sanpaku

    Sanpaku Mu-43 Regular

    Jul 24, 2012
    I tried some bird sanctuary shots yesterday with my (new to me) 45-200, and I don't think 200 is enough for for wildlife. A f2.8 at 300 would be so heavy it would sacrifice handheld use, but a 300 f4 for wildlife and a 200 f2.8 for sport would be ideal.

    In the meantime I'm seriously looking at an adapted Tokina SP 300 f5.6 as my next lens.
  13. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther Mu-43 Legend

    May 4, 2011
    I use my 70-210 all the time on my full frame....
  14. mister_roboto

    mister_roboto Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 14, 2011
    Seattle, WA, USA
    I would love fast primes.

    I kind of thought- way back when, that that was a bonus that µ4/3 could deliver. But hey- they had to get all of those 14-45 kit lenses out first :wink:
  15. Art

    Art Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 13, 2011
    San Francisco, CA
    Theoretically telephoto lenses should be the strength of m43 system due to 2x crop (and now we have good sensor, finally). But I have to wonder since Sony showed us that 1" sensor can be so good, wouldn't 1" system (2.7 crop) be even better for telephoto? Much smaller bright super telephoto lenses which might theoretically be cheaper too (much less glass).
  16. greyelm

    greyelm Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 28, 2010
    The more choice the better, that way we all get what we want. I have the Pana 45-200 and it ticks all the boxes for me. I am always pleased with the images I get from this lens.
  17. jloden

    jloden Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 15, 2012
    Hunterdon County, NJ
    I would love to see more telephoto lenses, specifically:

    1) Longer than 300mm
    2) Teleconverters
    3) Faster telephotos, prime or zoom is fine

    A 100-300 with addition of a 2x teleconverter would be monstrous reach even with the loss of 2 stops, and would be fantastic for moon shots, wildlife, and other events where there's enough light and the issue is much more about having enough length/magnification.
  18. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I'd be in heaven if they released an M43 90-250mm! This lens would be a monster on the E-M5!

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  19. nueces snapper

    nueces snapper Mu-43 All-Pro

    I concur. Don't know why it won't happen though. Lots of ole fahts like me out there shooting birdies and other wildlife. :smile:
  20. Sanpaku

    Sanpaku Mu-43 Regular

    Jul 24, 2012
    The Sony 1" sensor is superlative for its size, but to keep things in perspective, here's how DxOmark rates their best test results for low-ISO performance (highest ISO setting for a camera that allows it to achieve an SNR of 30dB while keeping a good dynamic range of 9 EVs and a color depth of 18bits) for a few formats:

    APS-C: D7000 @ 1167 ISO
    m43: GH1 @ 767 ISO (GX1: 703, G3: 667, GH2: 665)
    1": RX100 @ 390 ISO

    I suspect the EM-5 or GH3 sensors, when tested, would bump the top m43 high-ISO rating significantly, but they're not going to best the top sensors in the APS-C class. For high-ISO signal to noise performance, there's still no substitute for sensor size, though more compact sensors have achieved near parity in dynamic range and color depth.

    The m43 format represents a very good compromise for those who want 90% of APS-C image quality for 50% of APS-C system size and weight. Just as high-end compacts can offer 90% of m43 image quality for half of m43 system size and weight. The photographic consumer hasn't had this wealth of great options for decades, and it should be very interesting watching which formats survive.
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