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Any try an E-M5 with Pana 45-175? (Or on an E-P3?)

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by phdezra, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. phdezra

    phdezra Mu-43 Stalker

    115
    Dec 6, 2011
    New York, NY
    Thinking about getting the Pana 45-175 because it seems to be the best optical performer in this range. I want a long zoom, but the long end of Oly 75-300 or Pana 100-300 is really soft/nasty and just so-so.

    Has anyone used the Pana 45-175 on an E-M5? Or an E-P3? Im curious to hear thoughts and see images. Thanks.
     
  2. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    Can't help directly, but I'd be surprised if the 45-175 were better than the 40-150, if IQ is the main concern.

    DH
     
  3. kevwilfoto

    kevwilfoto Mu-43 Veteran

    294
    Sep 23, 2011
    Colorado
    I have that body and that lens, but I haven't shot with them together yet.

    I've heard the 45-175 is soft at the long end as well. I'm not sure any :43: super-tele has escaped that fate yet.
     
  4. phdezra

    phdezra Mu-43 Stalker

    115
    Dec 6, 2011
    New York, NY
    Disappointing to hear all this but I understand. I'm looking forward to the Pana 35-100, but I'd like something with more reach.

    For some reason, I'm seeing the 45-175 as better than 40-150. Maybe I need to look at more samples. ??

    The 100-300 is horrible (compared to IQ of 12-35, "horrible" is not an overstatement ), and the 75-300 is only a little better on long end. I do NOT pixel peep, but those results are pretty nasty.
     
  5. Sammyboy

    Sammyboy m43 Pro

    Oct 26, 2010
    Steeler Country
    I beg to differ with you, a group of photographers at the University of Pittsburgh and CMU tested the mZuiko 75-300 on a tripod. When the images were enlarged, you could EASILY read street name signs and license plates on cars at a distance of 2 1/2 miles as measured on Google Earth. Chances are the poor results you are seeing are coming from the operator, or in case of distant shots, atmospheric haze.
     
  6. Pyro451

    Pyro451 Mu-43 Regular

    162
    Apr 18, 2012
    Massachusetts, USA
    Steve
    These photos were shot with that lens on the EM5. Please pardon the user errors on composition and the post processing in some cases.

    If you would like to see any of the images at full size, or a crop from a particular area, please let me know. The metadata should all still be in tact.

    I like this lens on my EM5 as long as there is ample light. It is not exactly a fast zoom.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/A6WKPhJm_Hy6b1hGrrCmK52ZDDlCpz-TB8GARrNlLpU?feat=embedwebsite">"300" width="400" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0nHDQ2B0cXC5hm4oSs1BaJ2ZDDlCpz-TB8GARrNlLpU?feat=embedwebsite">"300" width="400" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SAs46vjZAgzgdZJVy4qCXz8P1oPKLEgmAetQODzbmi4?feat=embedwebsite"> muskets. "300" width="400" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Kl_HjZk1yFmfUG7itWwD2z8P1oPKLEgmAetQODzbmi4?feat=embedwebsite"> jeep. "300" width="400" /></a>
     
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  7. kevwilfoto

    kevwilfoto Mu-43 Veteran

    294
    Sep 23, 2011
    Colorado
    My experience has been quite the opposite.
     
  8. D@ne

    D@ne Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2012
    Toronto
  9. Pyro451

    Pyro451 Mu-43 Regular

    162
    Apr 18, 2012
    Massachusetts, USA
    Steve
    OP,

    I would really like to read your opinion about the 45-175 based on the images provided.
     
  10. Joe777

    Joe777 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 11, 2012
    Oregon
    I love this lens.
     
  11. tomas

    tomas Mu-43 Regular

    Likes Pany 45-175

    Had the Olympus 40-150, 14-150 and 75-300--sold them all--too soft at the long end for my purposes. Recently bought the 45-175 and use it on my em5. Have found it to be sharper than the Olympus telephoto zooms, with no modifications to the way I take photos between the Olympus lenses and the Panasonic lens. It's not the 4/3 Olympus 50-200mm but for me it's sharper than the lenses I sold.
     
  12. uci2ci

    uci2ci Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 22, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sam
    I did a quick and dirty shutter speed v.s double image/blur test on the OM-D. These are crops from hexagonal patterns on my computer monitor. Taken from the closest focusing distance @175mm, handheld while sitting. No blurring or double image. Gripping the lens barrel like a can of soda really helps me with stabilization btw

    All sizes | 45-175 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
     
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  13. uci2ci

    uci2ci Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 22, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sam
    I think i have to eat my own words here. I took some shots at 1/100 shutter and 175mm from a farther distance, and i see a double line pattern on the EM-5 :frown: same shots at 60 produced much better results. Ive never this issue before as most of my shots with that lens had been either closeups or at a higher shutter speeds

    I will post the pictures tonight when i get home

    But I wanted to give u guys a headsup sooner, and i appologize if my earlier commnets affected your purchasing dicision. I have returned the lens to amazon and will be purchasing an equivalent lens soon
     
  14. uci2ci

    uci2ci Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 22, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sam
    Here are the images:


    @1/100, 175mm. Note the bottom right photo is held in portrait :confused:

    1001.


    @1/60, 175mm

    60.


    This leads me to believe that atleast my copy had problems. My understanding is that POIS is disable on Oly bodies. However, it has "floating" lens elements (hence the rattle noise when the lens is off), so that could be culprit.

    I know a lot of you have been happy with this lens on the EM-5 (as I was a few days ago) so I really hope this is an isolated case.
     
  15. gordon1000

    gordon1000 New to Mu-43

    5
    Jul 31, 2012
    No problem with my X PZ 45-175 on OM-D

    Just got a new Panasonic X PZ 45-175mm lens. I was quite worried after reading this post not sure what was the test distance. I did some tests at different distances with my copy and glad that I don't have similar problems so far, see my other post for a quick summary:
    My Panasonic X Vario PZ 45-175mm works fine on OM-D E-M5: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

    My understanding is the OIS on X PZ 45-175mm is automatically disabled on OM-D. As long as the camera is powered on I don't hear the clinking noise from lens' OIS elements if I shake it, compare to when camera is powered off.



     
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  16. uci2ci

    uci2ci Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 22, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sam
    Hi gordon,

    Im glad urs is working ok. But I noticed you didnt have 1/100 in your test shots. Just to be safe, try 1/100. Thats the speed i was having problems with.
     
  17. gordon1000

    gordon1000 New to Mu-43

    5
    Jul 31, 2012
    I did go through 1/60 to 1/400 but just couldn't be bothered cropping and uploading them since they didn't show noticeable problem.

    Don't know if you followed that thread I posted to DPreview. This person called William Castleman did some extensive test of 14-42X and Olympus 45mm lens with a few different bodies:
    GX1 Shutter-Induced Decrease in Lens Performance

    So you are right 1/100 seems to be most problematic. I hope in the next generations of cameras they would use electronic shutters.

    PS. saw some lovely photos in your Flickr stream you seems to have move on to Olympus 14-150mm. I was tossing between that and 45-175X, in the end the 45-175X was more within my budget.

     
  18. uci2ci

    uci2ci Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 22, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sam
    I really hope they fix it too. I liked the 45-175x due to its internal zoom feature. The optics were nice too.

    Thanks...I got the 14-150 super cheap from a forum member. same price as the 45-175 :cool:. keep a close eye on the marketplace forum :biggrin:. Cameta sells them refurbished for 350 which is still a great deal.