I think I am at that point. Sometimes there is just TOO much information on the web. I’m looking for a good small lens and a good telephoto zoom. I have about $600 I can spend and I don’t mind used/demos/… For the small lens I’m not looking for the ‘smallest’ or the ‘fastest’. I’m looking for the better general use smallish package. Both seem to get good and some bad reviews. So is it really just 1.7 vs 2.5 and the extra $100 or so? The telephoto I'm looking for is to replace my Nikon 70-300 AF-S VR. So maybe the better/best "consumer" telephoto (so yes the 35-100 is not in the running). I think I have it narrowed to 2, but maybe not, the Oly 45-150 and Pan 45-200. These both seem to be about the same price give or take. And they both seem to get good and bad reviews with the 45-150 Oly seeming to have more bad then the Pan. I could look at other options, I've considered the Pan & Oly 14-140/150. I've also considered the Pan 100-300. One thing I do know is I won't be changing my E-PM1 anytime soon and I prefer a zoom ring instead of zoom by wire. If I have to get one (being the zoom) it won't be the end of the world as I know I'll get more use out of it than the pancake. Any help?