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An Oly 4/3 Lens on the E-M1: 50-200 SWD

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Tosh, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. Tosh

    Tosh Mu-43 Regular

    57
    Apr 23, 2012
    One of the touted features of the new Oly OM-D E-M1 is improved AF with Oly 4/3 system lenses.
    Because Oly is offering a full rebate on the MMF-3 adapter when purchased with the E-M1, I decided to try the 50-200 SWD.
    It looked like a relatively cheap means of gaining some reach -- 100-400mm FX equivalency for under $700.
    So far, I think the combo looks like a keeper.

    Here are some handheld field test shots:

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    200mm, 1/320 @ 5

    p1983318715.
    64mm, 1/50 at 3.2

    p2017271457.
    169mm, 1/125 @4

    p2044655079.
    130mm, 1/400@ 3.3

    p2022555372.
    158mm, 1/2500 @4

    p1968995397.
    200mm, 1/2000 @3.5

    p1982086351.
    147mm, 1/320 @ 3.4 (crabapples up a tree)

    p1904651141.
    200mm, 1/4000 @ 3.5

    Please keep in mind that I've only had the camera two days and have adjusted only a few settings. Who knows, there may be room for improvement. :smile:

    The 50-200 SWD certainly isn't as quick to focus as an M43 lens like the 45 or 75.
    If you've pre-focussed near the subject distance, the 50-200 is pretty quick.
    But if the AF has to adjust for large distances, it's slow -- it sorta reminds me of when I had a D200/D70/50 driving an 80-200 AF-D or 180.

    I ran a very simple continuous AF test with cars moving towards me at a 25 degree angle.
    Shots had sharp focus for the first 10-12 shots of a burst and then sharpness dropped off.

    1st shot, entire scene:
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    1st shot, 100%:
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    13th shot, 100%:
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    When I get a chance, I hope to see how continuous AF fares with soccer.
    And, of course, I'd love to hear how others find their 4/3 lenses on the E-M1.
     
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  2. Foster2380

    Foster2380 Mu-43 Regular

    47
    Jun 6, 2012
    Great shots! I'm definitely interested in the C-AF tracking for sports too.
     
  3. mnhoj

    mnhoj There and back again

    Dec 3, 2011
    Los Angeles
    John M
    Lookin good Glenn.
    Back in force. :smile:
     
  4. Glenn S

    Glenn S Mu-43 Top Veteran

    788
    Feb 1, 2010
    Looks really good, excellent colour rendition. I have the 50-200, I'm just waiting for the EM-1 to attach it to!

    Thanks for posting these.
     
  5. hkpzee

    hkpzee Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 5, 2011
    Hong Kong
    Patrick
    Looks good to me! I can't wait for mine to arrive so that I can pair it with my 50-200 SWD!!!
     
  6. F/Stop

    F/Stop Mu-43 Veteran

    451
    Mar 9, 2013
    West Virginia
    Brian Y.
    Looking good thanks for posting. If you were shooting above 6fps then auto focus will not work after the initial focusing. You probably know , but for those who don't just some food for thought
     
  7. lakota

    lakota Mu-43 Regular

    67
    Jul 29, 2013
    ireland
    Roger
    50-200 none swd

    Anybody know if the none swd is any good?
     
  8. lakota

    lakota Mu-43 Regular

    67
    Jul 29, 2013
    ireland
    Roger
    Anybody know if the Four Thirds 50mm macro is as good as the oly micro four thirds 60mm macro
     
  9. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    :biggrin: :biggrin:

    You really should have tried that lens with the E-M5! :eek:

    In all seriousness though, the 50-200 is in a different AF league than the 45 or 75 or even the 75-300. The smaller lighter glass is easier to move faster.

    That being said the AF performance of the 50-200 is very good and I would say it is pretty close to the lighter shorter 12-60. I am very pleased with the AF performance with this glass.
     
  10. JoJo

    JoJo Mu-43 Regular

    176
    Mar 19, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    JoJo
    I have the EM-5 and Oly 50-100 non-swd combo. It works very well for me! In normal interior lighting it focuses but not fast. With outdoor lighting, it is as good as with the E5 body. I use it for special events and weddings. Next week I am photographing a golf tournament and I will try the Oly 1.4 extender.
    I have both the Oly and Pany 4/3 to m4/3 adapters and I can't tell the difference in performance.
     
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  11. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    Wow. That is completely the opposite of my experience. My E-M5 and 50-200 non-SWD have terrible autofocus in any condition.

    So far it looks like the E-M1 does pretty well with the SWD 50-200 as the first post above shows, but I've not seen any results from the non-SWD yet.
     
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  12. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    The non SWD 50-200 works great with the E-M1. I have been very impressed. As fast as the 12-60 SWD maybe not but very close. This child was scootering about 25 m away from where I was. The focus point was on the red shorts, hard to say how fast he was moving but certainly bicycle fast. Not the ideal AF conditions with lots of potential confusion. The E-M1 and the 50-200 nailed it. With the E-M5 this would have been sheer luck.

    If you have the 12-60 (or 14-54ii or not) and or 50-200, you want this body.

    Scooter Child:

    P9300035.
     

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  13. lakota

    lakota Mu-43 Regular

    67
    Jul 29, 2013
    ireland
    Roger
    50-200 none sad

    I have the possibility to buy the none swd for 400 euro and as I am getting the M1 thought it would be a good lens to get, thanks for your input
     
  14. Tosh

    Tosh Mu-43 Regular

    57
    Apr 23, 2012
    Hey John!

    As you well know, the force in me has been weak the past couple of years.
    But I'm tryin'! :smile:
     
  15. Tosh

    Tosh Mu-43 Regular

    57
    Apr 23, 2012
    Actually, I didn't know. :redface:
    Guess I need to do some reading up.
     
  16. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    Three impossible shots with the E-M5 and the 50-200 (these were taken with the E-M1) - all single AF, no tracking or burst.

    Seagull in flight:

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    Container ship (ISO 100)

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    and Container ship (1/6400)

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    the 50-200 is fast enough wide open that low ISO and higher shutter speeds are very useful.

    RANT - Why couldn't they have thrown E-M5 users a bone with ISO100 and focus peaking? Neither of these features would make the E-M1 any less compelling but it would have rewarded the existing high end m43 users. They are only software tricks. Mind you given the 4/3 track record I guess this has not been Oly's style :wink: End RANT.
     

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  17. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    The 50mm Macro is as good as the 60mm macro in my opinion, but is not a true macro as the 60mm is. It is also an outstanding portrait lens. Digital Photgaphy Review said " it's the nearest we've yet found to a technically perfect lens…"

    However, on the E-M5 it is slow focusing but is right on when it is focused. It also makes quite a bit noise when focusing.
     
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  18. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    My non-SWD lens focused maybe 10ths of a second slower than the SWD, and with more noise. Outside of that they are equal. The 50-200mm, non-SWD or SWD, on the E-5 and E-30 is an excellent lens, and I expect the same experience on the E-M1.

    My 50-200mm SWD takes 1/2 - 1 second to lock focus on my E-M5, dim or bight daylight. And when I refocus on a spot I just focused on, it still l takes about a 1/2 second. On the E-M5 it is not a camera lens combination I'd want to use at weddings - but if it works for you, good on ya.
     
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  19. gnewylliw

    gnewylliw New to Mu-43

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    Nov 4, 2013
    Have you noticed any false false focus locks like the E-30 would occasionally do?

     
  20. agiyo

    agiyo New to Mu-43

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    Jun 5, 2013
    I have both, having bought the SWD after reading that it focused much faster on my E-M1s. Both are absolutely superb, I notice virtually no difference when they're on the MMF3. Were I to do it again, I'd skip the SWD. For photojournalism nowadays, I have a hard Micro 43 lens or sometimes, the 7-14 on the E-M5 with 12-60 and 50-200 on E-M1s. Oh, to have had this back in the day! Complete coverage from equivalent of 14-400mm, fast and much lighter than the Nikons I've carried since '68.

    But it must be pointed out that the Nikons, Canons and many other cameras I've bashed about since pterodactyls flew, were immensely more convenient than the first 7 years of this stuff, shooting everything with a 4x5 Speed Graphic.

    Some things really DO get better.