Alternatives to the olympus 75mm

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by manju69, Jul 5, 2014.

  1. manju69

    manju69 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 1, 2011
    Stroud, UK
    Pete
    Hi all. I have been looking at the image showcase for the 75mm and love what i see, in particular the way it renders the background out of focus. You can be quite far from the subject and still get this affect. Lovely for portrait work and isolating subjects. The thing is the cost! I can't justify the cost right now. Does anyone know of viable and cheaper alternatives. Legacy or new manual focus is fine. Any ideas?


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  2. LivingLoud

    LivingLoud Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 8, 2013
    Moscow
    Maxim Guselnikov
    I guess Sigma 60/2,8 is really nice & cheap alternative.
     
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  3. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    No personal experience of this lens but might be worth checking out

    https://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=66574

    its a bit longer than the 75 but should produce similar looking results.

    legacy 85/1.8's should be easy to find, most manufactures made them, and some made 85/1.4's

    K
     
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  4. phigmov

    phigmov Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 4, 2010
    Yup, Sigma 60 or Oly 60 if you want a native AF lens.

    If you're happy with manual, adapted lenses then most mounts have great 85's available.
     
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  5. manju69

    manju69 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Pete
    Thanks. Your portraits really made the 75mm shine, and inspired this enquiry. So, forgot to say I have the 60mm Oly. I'll have to experiment more but the shorter FL combined with the f2.8 don't produce the same DOF effect, unless I am not doing something right.


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  6. SkiHound

    SkiHound Mu-43 Veteran

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    Rokinon and Samyung both offer 85mm f/1.4 lenses in m43 mount. They are manual focus. I have no experience with them but they seem to get good user reviews and are $299 at B&H. I seem to recall seeing recent prices of $199 somewhere? And as previously suggested, with an adaptor there are lots of good 85mm lenses available. I do agree that a 60mm f/2.8 won't produce the same kind of subject isolation as the 75mm f/1.8.
     
  7. LoneRider

    LoneRider Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 25, 2014
    Marysville, WA.
    Wayne
    If you are ok with manual focus, the Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 is a great lens at an affordable price.

    This Is more of a candid than a portrait but shows the separation. It was shot at either 1.8 or 2.0, straight out of camera jpg.

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    image by Lone-Rider, on Flickr​
     
  8. wushumr2

    wushumr2 Mu-43 Regular

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    May 20, 2013
    I just picked up a Computar 12.5-75mm f1.2 lens. REALLY interesting lens. It shows vignetting at all focal lengths, particularly in the middle of the range, but if you go with a 1:1 or 16:9 crop, there's virtually none at 75mm. Honestly I'd say this lens would be perfect for Nikon 1 users. I'll put up some pics later when I get the chance.
     
  9. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    I love my Sigma 60/2.8 DN-Art, of the 'cheaper' lens (ie: under 300), it's also one of my sharpest native lens, pretty spot-on with the autofocus. I do wish it was a stop or two faster but I still like it, I just use my SMC Pentax-M 50/1.4 when I really need the extra stops (or if I want to knock out the background further including with a tilt adapter).

    http://kbeezie.deviantart.com/art/Little-Musicians-Warm-403690570
    p9276005_1280_warm_by_kbeezie-d6ochmy.
     
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  10. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    I looked for a sample image thread but I couldn't find one. Do you mind posting a few more, maybe with a variety of backgrounds. The bokeh looks really smooth in the sample you posted. Also, how large is this lens?
     
  11. RDM

    RDM Mu-43 All-Pro

    Don't forget about that Cosmicar & Computar make a 75mm 1.4 C-mount lens.
    There is a thread about the Computar on here.
    And that reminds me, I think I might be selling mine since I hardly use it anymore.
     
  12. LoneRider

    LoneRider Mu-43 Veteran

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    Wayne
    I don't have a lot of pics with it since I just went to MFT a few months ago.

    There is a an image thread here though:

    https://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=24285

    As far as the size of the lens, here it is on my E-M1. Note I have a screw on metal hood so it looks longer than it really is. You can see the bayonet mount for the factory hood, that is the end of the actual lens. My hood adds about 2" in length.

    Physically the lens alone is close in size to the 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO but you need an adapter which will add about 3/4" in length.

    P6260227.
     
  13. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
  14. DHart

    DHart Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 7, 2010
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Don
    A significant factor you should not overlook in achieving a look similar to a 75 or 85 lens at f/1.8 is your placement of the subject relative to the background and the camera position. The influence of these parameters, of the photographer's choosing while setting up the shot, is not to be underestimated in achieving a certain portrait "look".

    Using a lens like the 60/2.8 to achieve a look somewhat similar to that of the 75/1.8 will require the camera to be relatively close to the subject and the background relatively far from the subject. The closer the camera to the subject and the farther the subject from the background, the greater the isolation effect and the greater the defocus (blur) of the background. Even using the 45/1.8 in this manner can achieve results which are similar, though not identical, to that achieved with the 75/1.8.

    You might do a test, using a set-up as I've suggested, with your 60/2.8. You can create stunning portraits with this lens (as with most good lenses, really) if you do your part well enough. (Careful selection of location, background, lighting, subject placement relative to background, and camera position... in addition to lens selection.) I use my 60/2.8 for general subjects most of the time, rarely for macro applications. And wouldn't hesitate to use it for portraits in place of my 75/1.8. You can make great portraits without the 75/1.8 or comparable lens.
     
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  15. beameup

    beameup Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 23, 2013
    ED 50mm macro works for me
     
  16. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    The Cosmicar 50mm F1.4 could be another option or the Takumar 50 1.4, but somehow I feel that you are going to get better images overall with the sigma/oly 60.

    Look here, i really do not like the blur rendering:

    http://forum.mflenses.com/sony-nex7-and-cosmicar-75-1-4-t49974.htmlc

    and if you also need to stop it down a little you loose the main advantage...
     
  17. ccunningham

    ccunningham Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 23, 2010
    I have to second the comments on the rokinon/samyang/bower/bell+Howell 85mm f1.4. Mine has been great optically, but it is MF only. I'm not put off by that, butit might not be for everybody. One help is focus peaking if you have a body with FP.
     
  18. broody

    broody Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 8, 2013
    There is another cheaper and smaller option... The 85mm f/2 Mitakon... very nice build quality (aluminium/brass). Actually Mitakon is soon to release a 50mm f/0.95... With their record it will likely be quite affordable.
     
  19. DoofClenas

    DoofClenas Who needs a Mirror!

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    Clint
    Jupiter 9. 85mm f2
     
  20. manju69

    manju69 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 1, 2011
    Stroud, UK
    Pete
    Thanks for this. I will try this out. And thanks everyone for your ideas. Plenty to explore and consider.



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