Alert : EM5 Mk3 Release this year - it’s (well nearly) official

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Seriously!!!!!!
A number of friends who are keen photographers have EM10's and EM5's and none of them have spare batteries and they all go out and take photo's on day trips and very rarely run into any battery issues and never enough to drive them to buy a spare.
The average owner of most cameras doesn't need or want a spare battery, i don't have a spare for my TG5 or PM2.
a friend doing there own product photography only just bought a spare for their em1mk2 and only because they currently have a lot of products to do.....

~SNIP~
Although I have a spare battery (or two) with me when in the field, purely as a comfort blanket, I'm yet to get close to using one.
 

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Although I have a spare battery (or two) with me when in the field, purely as a comfort blanket, I'm yet to get close to using one.
I bought 2 OEM spares for my mk2 when i first got it as i was aware that i had a week of 12 hr shooting days not long after...... used all three every day and wished i had a fourth at the time .... since then it's been rare to get into the third battery but a lot of outings will see one used fully and the second well down..... though i've also wandered around on holidays and not used one battery over a full day.
If the em5.3 is the1.2 in a small body and they use the smaller battery then even average users may need two batteries.
 

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Again the average camera buyer doesn't give a rats about the spare..... it would sit in the box/shelf and go flat. making it essentially useless as these people wouldn't manage battery rotation and i'd bet good money that even the people with spare batteries fail to rotate the batteries to ensure the best battery life.
I will take that bet.
I number my batteries, and use them in numerical sequence.
 

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Oh and for the EM1X i wish Olympus would release a single cartridge battery that slotted into the compartment used by the tray.
Olympus has been down this route before with the BLL-1 battery used in the E-1. It was a great battery and long lasting. However, because no other camera used this battery, once Olympus moved away from the E-1, they stopped making BLL-1 batteries. There were a few clone makers that made BLL-1 clones, but they too soon closed the door and stopped making it.

And we likely will start seeing the same thing with BLM-1 batteries (For E-x, E-30, E-5xx DSLR cameras). Olympus has long stopped making BLM-1/5 batteries, and I imagine the supply of clone batteries is starting to dry up. For example, I prefer to use Watson batteries for my clone batteries, and they used to have both BLM-5 and BLM-1 versions. The BLM-5 version is no longer being sold, but they still are selling the BLM-1 version (the same charging plate from Watson can handle both, but the Olympus BCM-5 charger won't charge BLM-1 clones).

While I have a method to use external batteries with my E-5/E-3/E-1 (using a cut-up AC-01 cable and a 9v battery), it is kind of clunky to use.

This is one of the reasons I welcome manufacturers slowing moving towards using USB-C to both charge the battery in the camera, and run the camera.
 

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Although I have a spare battery (or two) with me when in the field, purely as a comfort blanket, I'm yet to get close to using one.
Different strokes for different folks.

When I'm shooting video at my local renaissance faire as one of the official faire photographers and videographers (4-6 hours of video per day on a 2 day weekend), I go through 3-4 batteries on the G85, and perhaps 2-3 on the E-m1 mark I that I'm shooting stills while the camera is recording video on a tripod.

In fact, both cameras have their battery grips, and on the G85 I have changed the battery in the grip while the camera was recording using the battery in the body.

The trick is to get the batteries recharged on Saturday night for Sunday's show (it is an hour or more drive between the house and the faire).

Another place that I do use 2 batteries is in my steampunk camera shells (like in my icon). I build a box around the camera made to look like a bellows camera. But it can take me 5-10 minutes with a screw driver and a flat surface to get the camera out of the rig and change the batteries. Generally, 2 batteries (one in the grip, one in the camera) do last most of the day.

For normal vacation days, normally I use one battery, but there are days when I get snap happy and need to go to a second.
 

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Different strokes for different folks.

When I'm shooting video at my local renaissance faire as one of the official faire photographers and videographers (4-6 hours of video per day on a 2 day weekend), I go through 3-4 batteries on the G85, and perhaps 2-3 on the E-m1 mark I that I'm shooting stills while the camera is recording video on a tripod.

In fact, both cameras have their battery grips, and on the G85 I have changed the battery in the grip while the camera was recording using the battery in the body.

The trick is to get the batteries recharged on Saturday night for Sunday's show (it is an hour or more drive between the house and the faire).

Another place that I do use 2 batteries is in my steampunk camera shells (like in my icon). I build a box around the camera made to look like a bellows camera. But it can take me 5-10 minutes with a screw driver and a flat surface to get the camera out of the rig and change the batteries. Generally, 2 batteries (one in the grip, one in the camera) do last most of the day.

For normal vacation days, normally I use one battery, but there are days when I get snap happy and need to go to a second.
I can't find any dictionary spelling of "faire". I guess you mean "fair" - is this version some MA colloquial?
 

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That was my mistake, assuming stuff. When I use my batteries, and I’ve only got two, I use it until the low battery warning blinkie starts flashing, then I remove it and drop in the charged one. See, I thought everyone did this...
I’ve never timed it of course, but my M5ii uses a fully charged battery, remarkably quickly. Certainly, it seems, far quicker than Richard M’s M1ii. There I go again, making assumptions...
I do tons of focus bracketing, nothing to fire off a thousand pics, stacking, reviewing, and generally mucking about trying everything I can think of , and maybe that’s why I think my battery life sucks. Now I realise,it’s me, not the tiny battery!
 

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Olympus has been down this route before with the BLL-1 battery used in the E-1. It was a great battery and long lasting. However, because no other camera used this battery, once Olympus moved away from the E-1, they stopped making BLL-1 batteries. There were a few clone makers that made BLL-1 clones, but they too soon closed the door and stopped making it.
Well it seems to be still available from one clone supplier, listed in stock http://www.mdbattery.com/battery-for-olympus-e-1-bll-1-digital-camera-replaces-bll-1.html

I actually didn't know about the bll-1 so i'll hold some hope that they will do the same thing, just a glimmer i suppose :)
 

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Also, I would not anticipate shooting sports with whatever this new 5 series camera turns out to be, and I suspect Olympus is not targeting that market segment with this model anyway, they already have 2 bodies for that. I suspect this model will be targeted, at least in part, at the world travelers that want to ditch their Canon or Nikon luggage busters with a more compact E-M1 II or X alternative.
I will defintely be shoting sports with my E-M5III. I had been thinking about getting an E-M1 but noticing how heavy and big they are (compared to my E-M5) I rejected the idea. E-M5III with usable AF-C is a dream come true for me. I have missed too many shots due to E-M5's inability to use AF-C(+TR).

I don't see any sense in switching to the smaller battery, unless they are planning to make the camera body significantly smaller than both of the previous E-M5s.
Well... Sounds (kinda) good but I don't want it to be significantly smaller but instead I'd welcome any decrease in weight. (And in fact I'd prefer E-M5s to be 1cm taller but that's not an issue because I can fix that by using an L-bracket).
 
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Different strokes and nothing is always true for different people with differing needs for batteries. My wife shoots professionally and sometimes has over 100 employees she has to do headshots for at their headquarters. Does she take extra batteries for her EM1 and EM5ii? She certainly does. We both photograph action sports (football, baseball, and basketball) and our shots per session may be in the area of 200-300 and batteries are definitely a thing to take extras along. Because of habit, we each slip a couple of batteries in our pockets or in some cases, my pockets, just in case. Maybe the casual shooter should not worry about batteries but it just happens, one time you are shooting a lovely session and it just ends and you realize another battery is at the studio or home and I am far away and I can not ask the scene to stay the same. Not a big deal to carry extra batteries especially if you are carrying a camera body, a couple of lenses and other paraphernalia.
 

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I can't find any dictionary spelling of "faire". I guess you mean "fair" - is this version some MA colloquial?
It is more Renaissance Fair(e) colloquial. A Renaissance Fair is an event that in theory recreates a historical period (usually England of the time Henry VIII and Elizabeth I). And yes, Italy had their Renaissance period some two hundred years before, but the English are somewhat slow on the uptake, and their renaissance period is the late 1500s and early 1600s.

Usually there are performers who act out scenarios either on stage or in the streets. These performers can represent real people (such as named members of the queen/king's court) or types (mayor, thief, washer wench, etc.). In some fairs, the court and such stage a connected show in different stages that advance a plot during the day. In some fairs they just walk around to greet the patrons.

In addition, there group of performers scheduled at particular times at the stages. These performers might be jugglers, musicians, belly dancers, knights who stage tournaments, etc. My job is to generally record these performers.

There are of course vendors that sell things like food and keepsakes.

Typically at the end of the day there is a common stage where all performers gather. Each performer does an act, and if there is a staged theme show, the conflicts are resolved.

But the use of the word "faire" is similar to the "olde" many places use to highlight they are talking about old times (i.e. such as Ye Olde Curiosity Shop, which was founded in 1899 in Seattle as a homage to Dicken's Old Curiosity Shop). As far as I know, the use of "faire" dates back to the original large renaissance fair, which is/was the "Renaissance Pleasure Faire" founded in southern California in 1963. They also opened a second faire in Northern California in 1967.
 
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I don't shoot professionally, but IMO a 2nd battery is necessary. I usually don't shoot enough to go through a full battery each day, but having a spare to change out when my current one dies is enough backup. Then when I get home I can charge up the one that died so I'm always 1 partial in the camera and one full spare.

I have about a dozen for my GoPro from back in the day when I would do more video stuff. It was just too easy to burn though an hour and a half of battery/video. Not to mention a 26000 mAh battery backup and USB charger for the batteries. I also had 2-3 128 GB micro SD cards which would capture ~8 hours of video, in case I wanted to spend a whole day videoing. I wish I had something exciting to video but right now I'm living a more subdued life that lends itself more to camera rather than video.

The spare camera battery is easy to fit in the camera bag with an extra SD card and any lenses/filters I bring with.
 

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I often "go bush" for 3 days at a time so extra batteries are essential. I have 3 batteries per camera (9 for the em10's and 3 for the e m5) and nearly always have 4 cameras with me. Even if I only take 30 or so shots on a particular camera, I still remove and charge the battery when I get home as I like to start the next days shoot with a new battery in each camera. I have the batteries stacked in a slim pouch facing alternate ways on their side so the terminals never come into contact with each other. The one I remove, after charging, goes to the bottom of the stack and the camera is reloaded with a battery from the top of the stack. If shooting just for a day, I take one spare battery for the 10's and one for the 5, so my minimum carry per day is 6 batteries.................yes I know, I'm a bit anal :)
 
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Stupidly enough the battery issue is the deal breaker for me.
I would assume that it would share batteries with other cameras in the range, as the pen-f is discontinued, then it needs a battery change;
either the em10/plL9 battery or em1ii battery, I had expected the latter.
If it doesn't share batteries with the em1ii then I need 2 battery sets and I will buy one of the last em5iis instead of the em5iii.
As an improved em10, the em5ii does everything I want (with the exception of the 20mp sensor).
As they are currently £400 with the UK grey market importers I will probably save myself £600.
 

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Stupidly enough the battery issue is the deal breaker for me.
I can't afford to skip a second upgrade in a row. I'm beginning to become frustrated with my E-M5's focusing so I will buy one (or two!) no matter what - even if the they put two swivel screeens or a old static one on it. And though I'd prefer to use the current E-M5 batteries if it uses the E-M10 battery I think I will just replace my 2nd camera (another E-M5) with an E-M10II/E-M10III to be able to share the batteries.
 

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I can't afford to skip a second upgrade in a row. I'm beginning to become frustrated with my E-M5's focusing so I will buy one (or two!) no matter what - even if the they put two swivel screeens or a old static one on it. And though I'd prefer to use the current E-M5 batteries if it uses the E-M10 battery I think I will just replace my 2nd camera (another E-M5) with an E-M10II/E-M10III to be able to share the batteries.
As I've noted elswhere, the batteries in my Pen F (same one as the E-M5 II) has the poorest battery life of any that I own. Even the one from my E-M10 II is better, and smaller. I most likely will jump on this one if the focusing is better than the E-M10 II and the Pen F. I'm not sure if it will replace the E-M10 II or just be an add on.
 

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IS on my EM1-mk1 is also set to activate at half press, and so is AF. All I can say is my 12-100 SUCKS power. That run time reduction from 4 hours down to 2-1/2 hours with the 12-100 is repeatable. But I am going to sent a message to Olympus Service to inquire about battery drain of that lens.
Well, the reply from Olympus service is that my 12-100 does not need to go in for servicing.
According to the rep, the Sync IS will draw more power from the battery than using just IBIS. Well I knew that, I was concerned with how much more power it was drawing.

When the Original E-M1 with its 7.6v 1220mAH battery was designed, the 12-100mm IS lens did not exist. So they did not have to design the EM1 for a power hungry lens. But years later, the EM1-mk2 with a larger 7.4v 1720mAH battery handles the 12-100 well. I think the mk2 came out before the 12-100, but they may have known about the 12-100 and the 300/4, both with Sync-IS.
Based on that, I leave it up to you guys to determine how the 12-100 would do on the EM5mk2 or mk3.
Or just not use the 12-100 on the EM5.

Again, my shooting scenario is shooting a sport (baseball, soccer, etc.) with the camera ON all the time.
- Soccer and Lacrosse, from start to half-time, then half-time to end of game.
- Baseball and softball, on all the time, except when moving to a different part of the field.
If YOUR shooting scenario is different, the battery may last longer.
 
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Well, the reply from Olympus service is that my 12-100 does not need to go in for servicing.
According to the rep, the Sync IS will draw more power from the battery than using just IBIS. Well I knew that, I was concerned with how much more power it was drawing.

When the Original E-M1 with its 7.6v 1220mAH battery was designed, the 12-100mm IS lens did not exist. So they did not have to design the EM1 for a power hungry lens. But years later, the EM1-mk2 with a larger 7.4v 1720mAH battery handles the 12-100 well. I think the mk2 came out before the 12-100, but they may have known about the 12-100 and the 300/4, both with Sync-IS.
Based on that, I leave it up to you guys to determine how the 12-100 would do on the EM5mk2 or mk3.
Or just not use the 12-100 on the EM5.

Again, my shooting scenario is shooting a sport (baseball, soccer, etc.) with the camera ON all the time.
- Soccer and Lacrosse, from start to half-time, then half-time to end of game.
- Baseball and softball, on all the time, except when moving to a different part of the field.
If YOUR shooting scenario is different, the battery may last longer.
I concur that the battery life with the 12-100 on my Pen F (same battery as the E-M1) is shorter than the battery life with the 12-100 on my E-M1 II. Luckily, my usage of the Pen F is not as demanding as using the E-M1 II, so not as noticeable.
 

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