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Advice: Cheap flash for Lumix GX8

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by Manu-4Vendetta, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Im need recommendations of economic device for my camera. The officials are very expensive.

    Im thinking in 2 flashes for interior and interior sessions.

    Thanks.
     
  2. bmhome1

    bmhome1 Mu-43 Regular

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    I can't recommend the Meike 320 Lumix version highly enough. Check out the thread in Accessories.

    You can get one from USA seller for $75 on eBay.
     
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  3. panamike

    panamike Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Just bought the above to use off camera with a TTL lead,what little i have used it i think it is great value for money.
     
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  4. skellington

    skellington Mu-43 Regular

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    Keith
    So are you looking for a manual off-camera flash, or something with full TTL?

    Do you want to use the optical flash control from the camera? Or optical slave mode? Or a cable? Or radio triggers?
     
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  5. CyVan

    CyVan Mu-43 Veteran

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    If you want something tiny that you can always keep with the camera you can also try the Olympus FL-LM3 flash originally meant for the EM5-MkII.

    https://amzn.com/B00SMPLHTI

    Small, Full 360 degree bounce and tilt capabilities and can fit in the same pouch as the camera. Requires some slight modification to fit into the hotshoe snugly.

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    But if you want a full size flash with its own batteries then yeah the Meike 320 looks good.
     
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  6. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I've had good luck with the Neewer NW320....small but pretty powerful.
     
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  7. ionian

    ionian Mu-43 Veteran

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    Simon
    I use the Meike 320 for on-board flash - it's very good for the size and price, but isn't 360 degree rotatable so you can't bounce from a wall and ceiling behind you. That's the only criticism I have though.

    For off-camera, there are many more variables so it may be worth hearing what you want to do with it.
     
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  8. bmhome1

    bmhome1 Mu-43 Regular

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    The Neewer NW320 is rebadged Meike 320 I believe.
     
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  9. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Thanks to everyone for your comments.

    I really know very little of flash. In college I have received some brief and limited instruction long ago, but generally work with natural light or lightning with direct light as at movies, but I want to do professional work with flash, I assume that would be the most suitable manual mode.

    CyVan, That flahs allows make professional works?

    Thanks!
     
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  10. skellington

    skellington Mu-43 Regular

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    Keith
    So I'm just getting started with off-camera flash as a hobbyist..

    If you want mostly manual mode, off-camera flash, you can use almost any flash out there. You'll also need appropriate stands, light modifiers, batteries, etc. which will probably cost about as much as the flashes (if not more.)

    Add in a set of basic radio triggers (without TTL / HSS etc.) (The top brand names run about $100 for a basic transmitter, receiver, or transciever. The cheap ones go as low as $10. I went with the Phottix Aries, which are about $30 / piece.)

    Many people starting out use Yungnuo these days, which is down around $60 / flash (and some models have a radio receiver built in.) Neewer / Godox also makes some really inexpensive options. And you might also be able to pick up some used speedlights; as all you need is a trigger pin. (I picked up a couple of Promaster Olympus TTL compatible flashes on clearance for super-cheap.)

    The strobist.com has a gear guide, and he's a big fan of Lumopro, which is a bit more expensive. But will remind you of all the pieces you need, regardless of brand. (And with some very good instruction.)
     
  11. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Thanks people. With the Neewer / Meike 320 I can get pro results as Yongnuo 560 IV? And why in amazon only see the flash, dont need controller receiver?
     
  12. bahamot

    bahamot Mu-43 Regular

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    I'm using Yongnuo 560 with phottix ares for my food photography work. It's cheap and powerful flash but no ttl.
     
  13. Stanga

    Stanga Mu-43 Regular

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    It all depends on what you intend to take pictures of with the use of that many flash guns. For small portable size I rate the Panasonic FL-220 very highly with its GN of 22. It is permanently in the bag with the GX8 wherever I go. But for indoor use I went out and bought some 20W daylight compact fluorescent lamps, which are stand mounted. I use the FL-360 to add some bounce etc., but the permanent beam from the CFLs makes it easy for me to see what effect the lighting has on my picture.
     
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  14. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I will make an session in exterior next week, near the end of the afternoon.
     
  15. KeenanRIVALS

    KeenanRIVALS Mu-43 Rookie

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    Keenan
    I might have to give this a try!
     
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  16. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    After a few days I have been using the Yongnuo flashes, without problem, except that from 1/640 the images come out black or great part of the frame black. I have tried different combinations and there is no way.
     
  17. skellington

    skellington Mu-43 Regular

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    Keith
    The flash sync speed for the camera is probably 1/200 or 1/250, so you can't go faster than that (without HSS, which is not supported on the manual Yongnuo.)
     
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  18. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    The E-M1 has a flash sync of 1/320s, most others only go up to 1/250s or 1/200s. Some Panasonic bodies only do 1/160s and the GMs with their stepper shutter only do 1/50s. You will need to use manual exposure and set your shutter speed below that. I strongly suggest you read thr lighting 101 tutorial on strobist.com, it covers all of this and more.
     
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  19. Repp

    Repp Mu-43 Veteran

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    pending the brand, the GX8 can do 1/320. I can do with with my Godox/flashpoint gear (both hotshoe flashes and ad360s), but not if I'm using the Cactus v5's.

    By the way, I can't recommend the Godox system enough (or it's various other names sold by other companies). It's great having full control over manual adjustments for all of my lights and has worked pretty flawlessly so far.
     
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  20. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    The question now: Some inexpensive HSS flash for GX8 for an exterior session. Normally, when I use continous or natural light in exterior, I need /500 or more. An option can be a ND filter.

    Thanks.

    Thanks.

    Its 1/200 for the GX8.

    Thanks.

    First, Im using manual mode. Second, i was readind tonight strobist.com, but the Yongnuo cant use in HSS with Panasonic.