43rumors declares the Pen-F dead

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I think we've heard it before, but a source inside Olympus confirmed to 43rumors that the Pen-F line has been killed.

If you've been on the fence about buying one of these, like I have, this might be the time to pull the trigger on a kick-ass, range-finder style camera with some impressive in-camera creative processing options. I'm strongly considering it.

(FT4) The PEN-F line has been killed :( - 43 Rumors

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If they made a cheaper and less premium model for $800 I bet it would have sold. To be fair, I had one and prefer the Fuji XE series, despite the loss of IBIS. The XE series had a much better pricing.
 

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Have Pen-F ever been a line...Thought it where a model they released to celebrating Olympus 80th anniversary? Its a great and fun camer to use, only real flaw is the bad AF-C performance.
 

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I was certainly a potential Pen-F buyer, but I ended up getting a GX85 because it was nearly equal to the Pen-F for stills, was better than the Pen-F for video, and was a lot cheaper.

Today, if I wanted a retro-look body with great jpegs, I'd get an X-T30. I feel like Olympus has really ceded the small, retro, jpeg space to Fuji. If Olympus isn't going to bring out a Pen-F or E-P6, I hope that they come back with a great, reasonably priced E-M5 iii.
 

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I was certainly a potential Pen-F buyer, but I ended up getting a GX85 because it was nearly equal to the Pen-F for stills, was better than the Pen-F for video, and was a lot cheaper.

Today, if I wanted a retro-look body with great jpegs, I'd get an X-T30. I feel like Olympus has really ceded the small, retro, jpeg space to Fuji. If Olympus isn't going to bring out a Pen-F or E-P6, I hope that they come back with a great, reasonably priced E-M5 iii.
In response to myself, I suppose I should acknowledge the E-M10 series. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

Still, feels like Fuji has really made a great effort to offer cameras that are just as small as m4/3 (X-T30 is actually a bit smaller than the E-M10 iii) and has focused on releasing small and light lenses as well. Meanwhile, all recent Olympus lens releases have either been enormous f/1.2 primes (that I won't buy) or enormous zooms (that I won't buy). My memory may be failing me, but I can't remember the last small lens Olympus released, maybe the 30/3.5 macro?
 

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In response to myself, I suppose I should acknowledge the E-M10 series. Perhaps I'm being unfair.

Still, feels like Fuji has really made a great effort to offer cameras that are just as small as m4/3 (X-T30 is actually a bit smaller than the E-M10 iii) and has focused on releasing small and light lenses as well. Meanwhile, all recent Olympus lens releases have either been enormous f/1.2 primes (that I won't buy) or enormous zooms (that I won't buy). My memory may be failing me, but I can't remember the last small lens Olympus released, maybe the 30/3.5 macro?
Why do they need to release more small lenses? Just about any focal length is covered by small lenses already.
 

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Despite all the things that the Pen-F can be criticised for (no weather-sealing, divisive JPEG knob, EVF smaller than it might be, innards similar to E-M5ii but at a higher price, lousy C-AF, ...), it somehow seems to work as a camera. It's just such a nice-looking and nice-feeling camera. It lets you take photographs without getting in the way and the results from it seldom disappoint.

Interestingly, I was reading some reviews of the Leica CL today and the Pen-F is often compared to it - which is quite astonishing considering the Leica costs 3x the price.
 

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Why do they need to release more small lenses? Just about any focal length is covered by small lenses already.
Fair enough. Those small Fuji primes are weatherproof, but not the m4/3 lenses (despite many weatherproof cameras).

But I think I've distracted enough from the conversation. I'm just searching for reasons why the Pen-F apparently has not merited a sequel, but we have no way of confirming that it won't have a successor.

I still hope that someday there's a Pen-F II for me to consider, when it's time to replace my GX85.
 

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I don't know what 'killed off' means when a camera body is 3+ years post release and always was marketed as a special anniversary item.

The Pen F is a niche camera. Either it works for you or it doesn't. No judgment either way. Most that own it are happy with their purchase. I hope Olympus continues to take chances with 'quirky' designs in between major launches. The EM1x shows they probably will.
 

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Maybe you should have read the rumor, the reason why was stated by the source of the rumor.
"The sources told me that the PEN-F simply didn’t sell well enough and Olympus had lost hope that a new PEN-FII would sell better."

There are reasons why sales were low. My above posts speculate on those reasons. Again, this is getting off-topic and I will now leave the thread be.
 

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"The sources told me that the PEN-F simply didn’t sell well enough and Olympus had lost hope that a new PEN-FII would sell better."

There are reasons why sales were low. My above posts speculate on those reasons. Again, this is getting off-topic and I will now leave the thread be.
I think sales were low simply because it was overpriced. It's a beautifully-made camera, but at its launch price (which never really softened), it invited the wrong comparisons with the E-M5ii and the E-M10ii. The 10 did almost as much as the Pen for a lot less, and the 5 did a little more for a little less. And that's before looking at larger-sensored competitors like Fuji and Sony. Olympus thought its cute looks and quality build feel would warrant a premium price sticker - but I think they were wrong.
 

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