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300mm end of big zooms

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by RamblinR, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    I'm currently trying to decide which of the two lenses to get

    Panasonic 100-300mm (long end at f5.6)
    Olympus 75-300mm (long end at f6.7)

    I currently have the 40-150mm II oly lens.

    How does the long end of the mega zooms compare to the long end of the shorter zoom? Does anyone have both for comparison?

    If I purchase a long zoom I'm guessing I will want to use it in the 300mm range. I'm looking for the sharpest one but wondering about the image quality compared to a lens I have.

    Anyone?

    Thanks
    Maria
     
  2. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
    I have the P100-300 it is very sharp at the 300 end.

    This one at 280 OIS off from a tripod. You can pixel peep at it on Flicker


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    Hand held at 300.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehudlavon/8649132774/" title="Painted Lady butterfly by Ehud Lavon, on Flickr"> 8649132774_a2e78505d3_b. "1024" height="768" alt="Painted Lady butterfly"></a>
     
  3. MajorMagee

    MajorMagee Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2011
    Dayton, OH
    This one was taken hand held with the 4/3 Zuiko Digital 70-300mm. We often think about using the long zooms for bird and wildlife photos, but in this case it let me get a wildflower that was well off the trail where foot traffic is strictly off limits this time of year.

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    E-PL1 with 4/3 Zuiko Digital 70-300mm at 300mm, f/5.6, 1/160sec, ISO 640

    Here's the 40-150mm from closer to the edge of the trail.

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    E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 40-150mm at 150mm, f/5.6, 1/160 sec, ISO 320
     
  4. Savas K

    Savas K Mu-43 Top Veteran

    784
    Jan 10, 2013
    If you have the 40-150 II, then you know what it can do at the long end.

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    Olympus does not dissatisfy with it's 75-300. Here is the long and short of it.

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  5. speedandstyle

    speedandstyle Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    The Olympus lens is a bit smaller and a fair amount lighter but it is a half stop slower and does not have built in IS{problem if you have a Panasonic body}. I have not had the Olympus in hand but we have the Panasonic at work{for shooting video} and it does work really well. I personally plan to get one of the Olympus lenses for personal use because of the size/weight advantage.
     
  6. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    Thanks for the replies.

    I would prefer the olympus to be f5.6 at 300. But if the Oly is sharp wide open and the Panny needs to be stopped down a bit to match then they are on par.

    I don't need OIS as I have the EM5 but having OIS means that an future panasonic body would be OK.

    Very undecided about which one. Hmmmmm

    Also, if wanting to use with a tripod/monopod can you get a lens collar for these lenses?

    Thanks
     
  7. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
  8. ssgreenley

    ssgreenley Mu-43 Top Veteran

    509
    May 12, 2011
    I can't speak to the 100-300, but you don't need a collar with the Oly 75-300. It's small and light enough that I've never worried at all using it with me EPL2.
     
  9. Savas K

    Savas K Mu-43 Top Veteran

    784
    Jan 10, 2013
    What helped me decide was that plus the 58mm filter; a size that I have standardized on. The sharpness at the short and long end was a welcome addition having pre-bought it sight-unseen.

    It's slow, but at the same time it is strictly a daylight lens. One stop hasn't affected my shooting in broad daylight. When the sun starts setting, I switch to a faster lens and concentrate on closer subjects.
     
  10. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    All slow zooms will perform better stopped down a little. For whatever it's worth (and noting I haven't really used the 100-300 for any punishing shots), I've been extremely pleased with its performance at the long end. The first image below was shot at around 230mm, handheld, the second is at full extension (300mm), handheld. Both shot with the E-M5, RAW files processed in DxO Optics Pro (adjusted white balance, slight sharpening, bit of vibrance, bit of curves, i.e. about 30 second adjusting one photo and copying the settings to the second). The source file/out of camera JPGs are softer and show some chromatic aberration along the edges, but as you can see, minimal processing sorts that out easily. My results with LightRoom weren't quite as good, but I put that down to the fact I'm far more experienced and comfortable with DxO as a processor - the sharpness and detail are with DxO's full automatic conversion settings based on the available lens profile, only curves and a bit of vibrance added by me.

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    P3294196_DxO by mattia_v, on Flickr

    Click through for more EXIF details and full res photos if you wish.
     
  11. Captmatt

    Captmatt Mu-43 Rookie

    21
    Apr 7, 2013
    Homer, Alaska
    Matt Wilkens
    The main difference I can see is the cost, the Panasonic is cheaper. One may be slightly sharper at the long end, or better at a specific aperture, but bottom line is they are both capable lenses, and most reviewers call it a draw. The new Olympus lens seems even bigger than the Panasonic. I choose the Panasonic because I could find one for 100 less than an Olympus and it came with a shade and case, something Olympus doesn't seem able to afford to do. Works great on my OM D EM5 body. Good luck.
     
  12. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    The Panasonic is larger than the Oly.

    Honestly, they're both small if you've ever used a DSLR lens of similar focal length (300mm), with twice the effective reach. I bought the panasonic because I got a killer deal on it (350 euros, if I recall correctly), and I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again if damaged or stolen. I'm selling my 100-400 because realisticially, it's not much better, and it's too heavy and bulky to warrant dragging around while travelling.
     
  13. Captmatt

    Captmatt Mu-43 Rookie

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    Apr 7, 2013
    Homer, Alaska
    Matt Wilkens
    To put it into perspective, the Panasonic 100-300mm lens is 3.5 oz heavier than the new Olympus 75-300mm II, and .39 inches longer. So the difference is really nothing to speak of for all intents and purposes..
     
  14. pxpaulx

    pxpaulx Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    Midwest
    Paul
    I vote Panasonic as well. A relatively small 300mm lens (compared to non-m4/3 cameras), it is cheaper and has OIS built in. They are both ultimately consumer zooms, so IQ will be comparable (though again the Oly is slower at the long end, which is a negative as well).
     
  15. Savas K

    Savas K Mu-43 Top Veteran

    784
    Jan 10, 2013
    Here's a 75-300 image at 300mm handheld, single shot, of a moving subject some 80 yards out.

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    This furry little guy demonstrates getting somewhere near Olympus 75mm territory. Who'd a thunk it?

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  16. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    I've now got a Pany 100-300 and it's a nice lens. Adequately sharp at the 300 end, esp if stopped down a bit to f8. It's on a par with the Canon 100-400L I used to have but significantly smaller and lighter. It's not up with the higher end Canon Ls, nor the u43 primes, but it's OK. From all the reviews I've read, it's a draw between the Any and the Oly 75-300.
     
  17. speedandstyle

    speedandstyle Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    3.5oz makes a big difference if you are hiking! Especially if you have other lenses and other equipment. It all adds up so where ever you can save an once you do.
     
  18. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

    545
    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    For me the Oly lens would be the cheaper purchase by quite a margin (talking new prices).

    Thanks for the input. Very much appreciated.
     
  19. yekimrd

    yekimrd Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 14, 2012
    Cincinnati, OH
    Mikey
    I forgot to mention 1 more thing in my reply PM to you. The 75-300 @75mm wide open is plenty sharp and reportedly rivals sharpness with even prime lenses. That plus 4x zoom should be helpful for a quick daytime portrait (though you don't get that pleasant background bokeh) without having to swap lenses.

    Mikey
     
  20. Geoff3DMN

    Geoff3DMN Mu-43 Veteran

    That's one of the reasons I finally decided upon the 75-300 over the 100-300, I don't have a 75mm prime and the gap between my 45mm f1.8 or the 14-42 kit lens and the 100mm short end of the Panny is a bit much for me.