2 vs. 1

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Jewood1234, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Jewood1234

    Jewood1234 Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2011
    Am currently shooting with an EPM1 that was my transition to m4/3. Mainly shoot family and travel.

    My question: I currently shoot with the Oly 12 and the 45 and love working with both. Friend has proposed a straight up trade for the panasonic 12-35 that he has for both of my current lenses.

    I like and know the current 2: (small, light, low light performance is great....)

    But have seen and like the 12-35 and the lens changing gets old.....

    Thanks, jw
  2. hazwing

    hazwing Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Nov 25, 2012
    how often do you shoot faster than f2.8? Sometimes I find f2.8 just isn't enought at times. If you need fast, primes will give another stop (and a bit?) of light. This could be the difference between ISO 1600/3200 or 3200/6400.

    Do you like shallow DOF portraits? 45 1.8 would give you more blur and nicer bokeh

    Is it annoying swapping lenses? Do you find you miss photo opportunities because you don't have the right lens on? If so the 12-35mm is worth considering

    How much do you value size/weight? I would say, the 12-35mm is a relatively hefty lens on the EPM1.

    Not sure what the second hand value of the lens are these days, but I'd say the 12-35mm is probably worth slightly more than the 12/45.
  3. Neftun

    Neftun Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 15, 2012
    Patrick Kristiansen
    I wouldnt trade those two for the one using that body. I'd get a second epm1 instead, they are really cheap now.

    Patrick K
  4. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
  5. demiro

    demiro Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Nov 7, 2010
    That's what I was thinking as well.
  6. Halaking

    Halaking Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 17, 2012
    Los Angeles
    I think that 12-35mm lens is too big for epm1, are you sure you want to carry that much bigger combo?

    take a look http://j.mp/1fLiLOU
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  7. Jewood1234

    Jewood1234 Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2011
    Hadn't even thought about the 2nd camera body. Good thinking.

    How's the bokeh on the 12-35 compared to the awesome 45?
  8. HarryS

    HarryS Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 23, 2012
    Midwest, USA
    A good friend would let you borrow the 12-35 for a day, and you might find out that you still want the 45mm.
  9. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Great idea folks on the second body, I think! E-PM1 or E-PM2 refurb maybe...

    I had the 12-35 and it is great, but I didn't like it better than either my 12 or 45 and it is definitely chunky in comparison.
  10. Jewood1234

    Jewood1234 Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2011
    Looking to upgrade to a bigger/nicer body at some point... GX7 or EM5....would that change anyone's thinking on this?

    Thanks for all the great info so far, jw
  11. Neftun

    Neftun Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 15, 2012
    Patrick Kristiansen
    The highend zooms imo fit the topoftherange models best, the em1 and gh3. The em5? Maybe. But with the smallish bodies, the primes rule supreme:) i sold my em5 for the em1/12-40 combo, and as happy I am with it, I miss the formfactor of the em5 with a 25 or 14 or 45. Might pick it up again as a second body one day, if my wife doesn't kill me first, lol...

    Patrick K
  12. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    I too suggest a second compact body : maybe a used e-pM2 ?
  13. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    Thoughts? You currently have two of the best primes available in mirrorless-land and love using them, why on earth would you want to get rid of them?
  14. Jewood1234

    Jewood1234 Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2011
    Well said......
    Must admit I'm getting faster at the lens changes with more practice!!

    Thanks all
  15. mister_roboto

    mister_roboto Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 14, 2011
    Seattle, WA, USA
    I did something like you're thinking. I traded in my 12mm + 17mm for the 12-35. I kept the 45mm for the extra reach and speed. I use wide angles less, so the versatility of the 12-35 as a travel lens for me (and hiking for the weather sealing) is a ++.

    ... although I did get another 17mm used at a killer price.
  16. I couldn't replace the 45 with either of the f/2.8 zooms... Anything under 25 mm, then by all means.
  17. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    Remember, your friend wants the 12/45 combo more than the 12-35 :wink:
  18. Pecos

    Pecos Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jan 20, 2013
    The Natural State
    Don't do it. You'll regret it.
  19. monk3y

    monk3y Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 14, 2013
    in The Cloud...
    I am mainly a zoom shooter and I think the 12-35mm f/2.8 is very convenient and awesome but it won't give you the character of the shots you'll get from both the 12mm f/2.0 and 45mm f/1.8.

    It will be slower (aperture wise), shorter focal length wise and the separation/bokeh won't be as good as shots taken with your 45mm f/1.8. As someone above said, don't do it you might regret it IMHO. :smile:
  20. tjdean01

    tjdean01 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Feb 20, 2013
    DO IT!

    How often are you really using that 12 at f2? So, you take the 12-35 and keep that on your camera most of the time. Then you spend $300 to get another 45. Then get a 20 or 14 someday for compactness and low-light then you'll be good for ever :)
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