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150-400mm f4 Pro will have built-in 1.25x TC?!?!?

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by mcasan, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. mcasan

    mcasan Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 26, 2014
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  2. hoodlum

    hoodlum Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Toronto Canada
    The Canon and Nikon equivalent lenses with built-in TC cost $11-$12k US. I would expect this Olympus lens to cost more than $10k and weigh a similar 3.5kg.
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  3. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2012
    David Dornblaser
    I would be surprised if it does as that would not in keeping with other m4/3 lenses. The Panasonic 100-400 costs ~ $1,800.00, I would expect the new Olympus to cost over $2,000.00 but less than $3,500.00. IMHO.
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  4. Reflector

    Reflector Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 31, 2013
    Explains the 150mm minimum focal length rather than a more typical 100mm as well as it. It sounds a lot more exotic than a 150-400mm f/4.5 for sure. Suddenly this is a lot more exotic sounding than a "mundane" 150-400mm f/4.x lens.

    Edit: Maybe not. 1.25x and f/4.5 means a 500mm f/5.6 but that'd throw out a 2x TC since it'd have to be focused at f/9 unless somehow the E-M1X has some insanely sensitive OSPDAF on it. A f/4.5 on the long end would knock down the front element requirement from ~100mm to below 90mm. Then again, FT5 means the noises of it being a f/4.5 might not be true then.
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  5. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Legend

    Mar 21, 2014
    Unfortunately, the Panasonic example confirms hoodlum's thesis, rather than contradicts it.

    The Panasonic-Leica 100-400mm costs $1800. Canon's 100-400mm costs between $1800-2200, depending on promotions.

    If Olympus sells this for a penny under $10,000 all it suggests is that they are willing to accept a much smaller margin than Canon and Nikon.
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  6. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Jan 3, 2014
    What does the price of a Panasonic consumer grade lens have to do with the price of an Olympus Pro lens? It’s a constant f/4.0, just look at how much the 300/4 is and then factor in all the extra glass to keep the IQ to Olympus standards at a constant f/4.0 in a zoom. Not to mention the trickery needed to have a built in TC that you can easily switch on/off.

    This lens will be at least 10k.......

    I personally would love this lens and may actually get it before getting the EM1X.
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  7. turbodieselvw

    turbodieselvw Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 29, 2010
    Yup this is gonna be a pricey lens.
  8. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    When I sell my car to buy this for my E-M10i I will finally be a decent photographer.
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  9. ..................who will be specialising in subjects within walking distance of Knoxville.
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  10. jacobm

    jacobm Mu-43 Rookie

    Jan 28, 2018
    I feel like one of the few people really excited about this lens and the EM-1X. I'm really hoping for a price nearer to 5k than 10k, but who knows.
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  11. rogazilla

    rogazilla Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 17, 2018
    NC, USA
    If the spec is true then this is probably as many have mentioned 5k to 10k lens.
    Clearly Olympus wants to have something in the Pro sports category. This may be a great alternative for people who loves to do air shows, birding and such and save some weight on the D5s or 1dX and their humongous lenses.

    I am more interested in the interim if the 2x converter works with the 40-150 pro? That'd be pretty useful on top of the 1.4x.
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  12. x_holger

    x_holger Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 14, 2012
    Berlin, Germany
    As rarely as I agree to the conclusions of 43rumors.com
    in this case I think the 4.0/150-400 plus 1.25x integrated converter, 5-axis OIS plus dual IS, plus 2x converter
    will indeed be a great lens for wildlife shooters that is hard to resist.
    But not only for wildlife shooters but also for sports photographers ...
    Combine it with the upcoming E-M1X with AI improved AF and it's impressive processing speed and this will be a great offer for the Olympics in Tokyo.
    I think the strategy of Olympus is getting clearer, even if it's not for me ... it's still impressive.
    It does indeed max out what mFT is capable of.
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  13. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2012
    David Dornblaser
    I would think that the proper comparisons for the Canon and Nikon's 100-400 mm lenses would be the 40-150 PRO and PL50-200. I am likely to be wrong, or maybe it is just wishful thinking, but I am thinking that it will come in $1,000.00 more than the 300mm PRO. I am also hoping that the new EM-1X is the new video standard. :flypig:
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  14. Mike Wingate

    Mike Wingate Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 21, 2017
    Mike Wingate
    A great match for the new camera body. Appeals to everyone, affordable to the few. No red dots. An extra converter will be available. This will reduce the speed unless it is very bright.
  15. Lcrunyon

    Lcrunyon Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    Given the integrated x1.25 tc and the fact that the x1.4 tc already exists, I don’t really have much interest in the x2 tc as it pertains to this lens, and suspect it has more to do with the other Pro super-telephoto lenses in the lineup: the 40-150mm, 300mm, and perhaps whatever other telephoto zoom they are rumored to be announcing. Since the 150-400mm is looking to be so expensive and both a niche product and a statement piece, I’d imagine this other lens will be something a bit more affordable. Curious that we’re only hearing about this one thus far...

    Regardless, I’ll be very tempted by this lens...
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  16. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Legend

    Mar 21, 2014
    On the contrary, it looks like this body and lens is practically crying out to be used with a red dot... ;) 

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  17. whumber

    whumber Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 13, 2017
    I'm very doubtful that the 40-150 PRO would hold up under a 2X TC. I was never particularly impressed with the MC-14 + 40-150 PRO, unlike the MC-14 + 300 PRO combo which is excellent, and a 2X TC is going to be significantly worse.
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  18. ralf-11

    ralf-11 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 16, 2017
    should I add it to my wish list (which contains the PL teles right now)?
  19. ac12

    ac12 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 24, 2018
    I must be missing something.
    I can see 1.4x, but 1.25x tele-converter? :confused: 
    25% more magnification is not a whole heck of a lot. A 1.4x seems to make more sense (which is what the Nikon 180-400 has), at 1 stop light loss. Even better for magnification, would be a 2x TC, but at 2 stops of light loss.
    For only 25% more magnification, I would leave the TC off and lower the price.

    Then again the 1.25x TC could be a cheaper alternative to a straight 150-500 zoom.

    Unless maybe 1.25x was chosen to minimize light loss to be effectively less than going from f/4 to 5.6, so the AF is not significantly affected. This is just a guess on my part.
  20. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    It could be "olympus talk" for a 120-320/4 lens that becomes 150-400/5 with the iTCV engaged.

    That way, "it's an f/4 lens" and "it does 150-400" are both true.

    At least that might bring the price down from total insanity.
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