12mm or 20mm for casual low light?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by ssgreenley, Apr 3, 2012.

  1. ssgreenley

    ssgreenley Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 12, 2011
    Hello all!

    I'm very excitedfor a city break to Amsterdam this weekend! Usually when I go on short trips with friends, I've taken my kit lens for day time and my 20mm for evenings and inside touristy stuff. This week, however, an Oly 12mm has arrived. Now I'm thinking about taking the 12 (along with the kit) and leaving the 20. I'll miss the quasi-pocketability, but for interiors I think the extra width will be helpful. Is there anything I'm not considering?
     
  2. speltrong

    speltrong Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 8, 2011
    Northern California
    If you like to shoot people, the 20mm will give you much less distortion (especially around the edges of the frame) and produce more flattering photos. You also won't have to get as close to them. If you're more interested in architecture and scenics, the 12 would probably be a better choice.

    Also, if you plan to get baked or drunk, you may want to consider the price difference between the 20 and the 12 and what it would cost to replace them :alcoholic:
     
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  3. ssgreenley

    ssgreenley Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 12, 2011
    See, I knew someone would mention something I hadn't considered!!! :rofl:
     
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  4. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    A slightly roomier camera bag?
     
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  5. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    don't leave the 20.... 12 is just on the edge of freaky wide... good for some things... but never a general purpose lens

    in the end it depends on your shooting style... but personally if i was forced at gunpoint to have only one lens it would be the 20

    enjoy amsterdam... not one of my favourite cities.. but it is fun


    K

    K
     
  6. c5karl

    c5karl Mu-43 Regular

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    May 31, 2011
    Fairfax, Va., USA
    You say you're traveling with friends, so I assume you'll want to shoot photos of them in Amsterdam, not just pictures of Amsterdam. I concur with the others that the 20mm is the better option for this purpose.
     
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  7. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Definitely take both the 12mm and 20! The 12mm is a great walk around lens for city streets and architecture. Also, would be fun for indoor architecture.

    I love the 12mm, but I am not crazy about it wide open. I always ran my at f4-5.6 or so and then it was sharp from corner to corner.

    Those two lenses are so small and light, you should really take them both. If I had to ditch one lens, it would be the kit zoom. :eek:
     
  8. Hikari

    Hikari Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 26, 2010
    Since when did the 20mm become a burden to travel with?
     
  9. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    12 and 20 instead of the zoom?... that sounds a fun combo.. not my choice for my photography... 20 and 45 works better for me and makes a great no bag jeans pocket combo

    Blues at the Hotsy Totsy - a set on Flickr
    k
     
  10. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    You have some big jeans pockets my friend.
     
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  11. kinlau

    kinlau Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 29, 2012
    That is so small I had a hard time finding which pocket had it.
     
  12. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    I am thinking about getting a pair of these, so I can call my Pentax K-01 pocketable:

    ipad-pants-4.
     
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  13. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    Holy cow... I think I could fit my backpack in those
     
  14. songs2001

    songs2001 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 8, 2011
    12 isn't do bad, if you want to take pics of people across the table, I'll go with the 24 equiv. you can minimize distortion by liberal use of crop.
     
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  15. RussellOlaguer

    RussellOlaguer Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 12, 2012
    Paranaque, Philippines
    Russell Olaguer
    it will depend on your shooting style.
    if you want to shoot the city itself, 12mm.
    i dont have the 12mm so i cant tell.

    i only have the 20mm and 45mm which i bring with me all the time.
    i most shoot people. so 20mm and 45mm works fine.
    20mm can be used for landscape too.
     
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  16. ssgreenley

    ssgreenley Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 12, 2011
    Thanks for the feedback everybody! I know I could easily bring all three (then I could even take my bag, that way I'd have my beloved pinwide and could use the spot for my 75-300 as a place for a bottle of water!), but I bought m4/3 to travel light, and that's how I intend to roll.

    I think I'll take the 12 out tomorrow afternoon for one last test, and see how I feel from there! (I always tell myself I should spend more time shooting and less time typing, but ya'll are just so helpful!)
     
  17. bedojo

    bedojo Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 14, 2011
    Oregon
    I personally love the 12mm,
    I shoot portraits
    I have shot portraits with the 12mm :)
    please dont get in the mindset, wide angles cant be portraits lenses.

    I like the 12mm for the build and af speed, the 20mm is also a great lens ( i had it about a year ago)

    these are two studio portrait shots with the 12mm
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    P1010131-Edit by Nathaniel.Allen, on Flickr

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    P1010353-Edit by Nathaniel.Allen, on Flickr
     
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  18. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    Take the 12 and 20, leave the kit lens at home. Start saving for the 45/1.8.

    Fred
     
  19. bedojo

    bedojo Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 14, 2011
    Oregon
    lol I miss read what you wrote and got distracted by the other replys

    totally take the 12 and the 20mm and leave the kit lens, and save for a 45mm :)
     
  20. capodave

    capodave Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 4, 2010
    Southern Cal
    Dave
    12 & 20....don't leave home without 'em