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12-60 f2.8-4 Lens on M4/3 Body?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Dave Jenkins, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. Dave Jenkins

    Dave Jenkins Mu-43 Veteran

    Does anyone have experience using the Olympus 12-60mm f2.8-4 lens made for the E-series cameras on micro 4/3s bodies? I think the range of the would be just about perfect for me, but of course it would have to be used with an adapter. How well/quickly does the autofocus work with this lens on an M4/3 body?
  2. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Focus is awful. Optics are fantastic. The 14-54 mkII is the only standard zoom in this range with respectable AF.

  3. juangrande

    juangrande Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 2, 2012
    I've got the 14-54MKII and it is adequately slow. I've read the 12-60 is slower and less accurate. It wasn't designed to be used with the m4/3 focus system ( cd-af I think). The 14-54 was designed to use the same system. It's a wonderful lens, BTW. Doesn't go to 12mm, which is a lot at the wide end, but the 6mm at the long isn't as noticeable.
  4. SkiHound

    SkiHound Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 28, 2012
    I have a 12-60. Really a great lens on 43 bodies. On the E-M5 AF is slow and I seem to get a lot of misses. If you want to work slowly and use MF, it's a terrific lens. But I tend to think of a lens like this as a great walk about lens and it's just not very satisfying to me in that role when mounted on my E-M5. Just not optimized for cdaf. I also realize just how big it is when I mount it on the E-M5.
  5. This is true for a lot of great 4/3 lenses. The Panasonic Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 and Zuiko Digital 50-200mm f2.8-3.5 were stunning lenses on an E-510 but just awful to operate on anything Micro 4/3.
  6. Rfinley33

    Rfinley33 Mu-43 Rookie

    Mar 8, 2012
    Salt Lake City
    I had the 12-60 and the 14-54 II. I kept the 14-54 II. Much faster focus. Low light 14-54 II is still a bit slow but acceptable.
  7. New Daddy

    New Daddy Mu-43 Regular

    Jan 24, 2011
    Now that E-M1 has been out for a while, do E-M1 users find 12-60mm work better?

    I hope Olympus will reincarnate this wonderful lens in the native m4/3 format some day (after they recoup enough from their 12-40mm, I guess). 35mm and 40mm, unfortunately, sit right in the middle of the 18-55mm (36mm-110mm in 35mm eq.) range that I find useful for people/event photography. (I've carefully gone through all my people/events photos, and they predominantly fell in that range.)
  8. elandel

    elandel Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 16, 2010
    Milan, Italy

    From reviewx I've read it seems to focus faster on M1. I also have a bunch of 4/3 lenses and am thinking of buying a M1 body only. Only cost is stopping me.
  9. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 6, 2013
    True, but they now work great on the EM-1 though.
  10. mattphoto

    mattphoto Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 21, 2013
    New York
    the 12-60 focuses alright on the EM-1 in optimal conditions. Anything less than optimal and it fails miserably.
  11. New Daddy

    New Daddy Mu-43 Regular

    Jan 24, 2011
    I've seen similar reports elsewhere too. I think E-M1 switches to CDAF in dim light even with a PDAF lens on. In dim light, both CDAF and PDAF struggle, but the latest CDAF seems to do better with a CDAF lens on, so that may be the impetus behind that algorithm. But 12-60 is not a CDAF lens. I doubt there is any advantage to be gained by shifting from PDAF to CDAF with a PDAF lens.

    In any event, for people like me who often shoot in dim light, it looks like using 4/3 lenses is not such a good option after all. One more reason to cross my fingers that Olympus will build this in m4/3 native format some day.
  12. elandel

    elandel Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 16, 2010
    Milan, Italy
    This holdes me back a bit from getting the E-M1, whick I would buy mainly for using with my 4/3 lenses.
  13. RAH

    RAH Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    Dec 1, 2013
    New Hampshire
    Anyone have experience with m43 camera and a 14-54 MKI lens? I suppose it would be slow like the 12-60, but anyone know? How about with E-M1?
  14. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    It's slower than the 12-60 - more so on the earlier cameras than the E-M1. In good light, it's usually fast enough on the E-M1. In poor light, it varies a lot. I actually had fewer cases of grossly out-of-focus images with the 14-54 on the E-M1 as compared to the 12-60. The mk2 has substantially better focusing on the earlier cameras, but on the E-M1, I found no difference.
  15. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    I would agree with Dara.

    The Mk1 and Mk2 are not as fast as the 12-60 on the E-M1.

    The Mk2 is faster than everything else on the CDAF only bodies.

    I was playing with the 12-50 which is very fast to focus and it was not substantially better than the 12-60 in low light. And much to my surprise there were times the 12-60 would lock focus when the 12-50 failed completely.
  16. elandel

    elandel Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 16, 2010
    Milan, Italy
    Let me understand. Are you saying that the 12-60 is faster than 14-54 MKII on M1? And 12-60 you are saying is slow on M1, right? So 12-60 is very slow'on M1 if I don't misunderstand. Now I'm totally confused. If there is no significant improvement in low-light environments respect the perfomance of these lenses on my E-pl5, then there is no reason to buy the M1 for using Zuiko 4/3 lenses. At least for me.

    Correct me if I am wrong about the lens performance.
  17. photo_owl

    photo_owl Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 8, 2013
    Sorry, if the thread was confusing your post is even more confusing...........and I have the glass and bodies!

    What's the question?
  18. elandel

    elandel Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 16, 2010
    Milan, Italy
    Thanks. I have the Zuiko 14-54 MKII - 11-22 - 12-60 - 50-200 and 35 macro.

    My question is: now do they perfodm on M1 in good and dim light?

    I've really heard many mixed opinions so would like to hear first hand user opinion.

    So Thanks in advance for your help.
  19. Gary Ramey

    Gary Ramey Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 27, 2012
    Aurora Colorado
    Interesting thread....I was hoping that my 4/3 glass would perform well on the EM1. Sounds like maybe not-so-much? So now I have a real dilemma. Keep the fragile 12-40 on order, or cancel and see how fast the 12-60 really is.
    Scenario - indoor sporting event like volleyball or basketball....how well would the 12-60 perform in gymnasium lighting with the players coming at you in basketball?
  20. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    E-M1 -

    12-60 SWD Fastest
    14-54ii noticeably slower

    Any CDAF only body -

    14-54ii fastest
    the 12-60 SWD is likely the next fastest
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