12-32 and 14mm prime ?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by justa1972, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. justa1972

    justa1972 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 29, 2013
    Hello

    I’m going to get a 12-32 to go on my Pen F - for its size and the extra bit of width.

    Thing is I already own the lovely 14mm F2.5 - will the 12-32 make this redundant ?

    Thanks
     
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  2. If anything it might go the other way around. The 14mm is a tad faster, with MF ring and no need to extend to shoot, but is no better for sharpness than the 12-32.
     
  3. Dave Lively

    Dave Lively Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 16, 2014
    It would for me. But I rarely use manual focus.
     
  4. djtaylor7

    djtaylor7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 2, 2013
    Nelson, NZ
    David
    I use a 12-32mm on my E-P5, and like it a lot. Am still happy to keep the 14mm f2. 5, but it gets a bit less use.
    I wonder if Panasonic will stop selling the 12-32mm pancake. I was about to buy the 35-100mm f4-5.6 lens but have just heard that it has been discontinued.
     
  5. BleedingGumsMurphy

    BleedingGumsMurphy Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 19, 2017
    Thailand
    Yes you will not need your 14mm. Unless those extra few mm mean something to you like mine did when on a GM5. The 14mm is marginally sharper but only noticeably when zoomed in, so the versatility of the zoom wins.
     
  6. Sold my 14mm the moment I saw what my 12-32 could achieve. I had two 14mm and neither of them came near to my 12-32 but in the light of what others say about the 14mm I guess I had bad copies both times?
     
  7. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Legend

    Why would that stop you from buying it? If anything, I would expect it to encourage you to buy it while you can.
     
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  8. PakkyT

    PakkyT Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 20, 2015
    New England
    I'll just note that the 14/2.5 is a full stop faster than the 12-32mm. So while the focal length might be redundant, if one ever needed that extra stop of light gathering, the 14/2.5 has that bit of advantage. Also the 14/2.5 doesn't extend when used so more compact making a nice pocket-able (even when powered on) point & shoot when coupled with certain bodies.

    And in case anyone cares, the 14/2.5 is a nice lens for infrared converted cameras because it doesn't suffer from the "hot spot" some lenses exhibit with IR under certain conditions.
     
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  9. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Legend

    Depending on how specifically you needed 14mm vs 12mm, the 12-32 is actually f3.7 already by 14mm. So we are 1.33 stops at 14mm.

    Generally for what I shoot with wide angle, I find that OIS can compensate, so I pair a 20mm f1.7 with the 12-32. At 20mm, the 12-32 is something like f4.5, so there's no getting around that if I need more light. 12mm f3.5, I can sort of make work with Dual IS and good timing.
     
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  10. justa1972

    justa1972 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 29, 2013
    Humm interesting points thanks.

    I suppose I could hold onto the 14mm and see how much I use it....
     
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  11. djtaylor7

    djtaylor7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 2, 2013
    Nelson, NZ
    David
    I would if I could. Unfortunately stock of the black model seems to have disappeared here in NZ. Can still get silver ones but not sure if I want that colour. Buying from overseas I trigger customs duty
     
  12. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Nov 27, 2015
    Keep them both. They weigh a whole quarter a fart each, & take up even less volume. I currently own both, plus the PL 15, & I’m in no rush to get rid of any of them. Like what would you get for the 14mm? 200 bucks max? I’m not that desperate for the cash, and quite like giving them all a spin on occasion.
    If I was forced into letting one go, it would possibly be the 14mm. Or the 12-32. Both are excellent performers. It’s really your decision.
     
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  13. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I prefer the 12-32 over the 14. It's just more versatile IMO, without being any bigger, and I don't find IQ very different.
     
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  14. Drdul

    Drdul Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    May 16, 2015
    Vancouver, BC
    Richard
    I’m in the same boat. I just acquired a 12-32mm and am quite impressed by the image quality given the tiny size. I like my 14mm, but have come to realize that I prefer zooms to primes. Also I typically shoot around f4.5 to f5.6 for depth of field and don’t need the f2.5 of the 14mm, so I will likely sell the 14mm.
     
  15. rezatravilla

    rezatravilla Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 7, 2013
    Indonesia
    Reza Travilla
    I feel 12-32mm has better optical performance than 14mm. But if you love prime lens why don't consider 20mm F1.7?
     
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  16. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Legend

    I caved and bought silver. It was much cheaper and easier to find. That said, it is an ugly, cheap silver. So I can't say your reservations about the color are unfounded.
     
  17. djtaylor7

    djtaylor7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 2, 2013
    Nelson, NZ
    David
    I have found and ordered a black one, at NZD 349, so fingers crossed they do still have stock.
     
  18. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Nov 27, 2015
    I thought I wanted a black one, had the choice of either, then just to be daring, I bought the silver. $199 delivered. About 2 weeks ago. I reckon it looks all right.

    28164429627_89ce31c404_h. G9 12-32 by speedygz, on Flickr
     
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  19. Dave Lively

    Dave Lively Mu-43 Regular

    103
    Mar 16, 2014
    It could be the used market is so flooded by people selling the kit lens that comes with their camera they are having a hard time selling new versions. But there are enough people that prefer to buy new that would be odd.

    Maybe they are coming out with a mark II version with a zoom ring less likely to come off. Since compact is a major reason people choose m43 it is hard to believe they will discontinue the 12-32.
     
  20. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Nov 27, 2015
    Mine is the MkII version. It has the plastic bayonet. The earlier versions were metal.
     
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