$100 45-150mm w/ G5 kit @ B&H!

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by RoadTraveler, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    I've just about convinced myself that I want a G5 instead of my current G3 as my second body to go with my GX1, mostly for the better ergonomics and a couple added features.

    G5 body only for $500 from Amazon seems perfect, as I'll spend as little as possible on the body, and I won't use the kit lens.

    For $600 from B&H, I can get the G5 with 14-42 kit lens AND for $100 more [$200 rebate!] the 45-150 Panasonic lens.

    I know the 45-150 is a relatively inexpensive, slow, consumer lens. However, it seems a fantastic deal for $100, really $200 out-of-pocket, and is small and light. Sure I can possibly sell the kit lens for $75-ish to defray the cost [though there seems to be lots of them for sale now]... or if I find I don't like/use the 45-150 I can likely sell it for $150-200, right?

    My eyes have been focused on the 35-100 f/2.8 and I'll likely buy one relatively soon, but it seems a hell of a deal to get that 45-100 for so little cash above the kit price. Combined with the added reach of the 150mm I might be able to postpone my 35-100 purchase for a while.

    Thoughts

    P.S. "IF" Amazon had the 45-150 in stock they have a '$50' rebate, though the total out-of-pocket would be within $50.00 and shipping is faster/cheaper to me from Amazon. But I have a bit more confidence in buying from B&H when it comes to cameras/lenses.
     
  2. pxpaulx

    pxpaulx Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    Midwest
    Paul
    You can easily get a 45-200mm used around here for about $160 - longer reach, physical OIS button, and an established lens with a good to very good reputation. Between these two lenses, it is obvious Panasonic is following the typical electronics company think (typical of Panny and companies like Sony) where the first iteration is a great version on its own, then gets split into a pro version (35-100) and a watered down consumer zoom (45-150) that doesn't, in this case, encroach as much on either the 35-100mm or the 100-300mm.
     
  3. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Drat. I bought the Lumix 45-150 as soon as it became available only a few months ago. And I've been considering either a G5 or GH2 body. Still trying to decide.
     
  4. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    Yep, I saw your post about the G5 or GH2 and zero replies :frown:

    Aside from using different batteries than my GX1, I'm pretty convinced the G5 will be a nicer, better camera for me than the G3 for a body with an articulating screen and a built-in viewfinder.
     
  5. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Yeah, that's a bit curious. But I suspect that if I'm not too worried about video, the G5 might be a slightly better stills camera than the GH2. A lot of the same or similar hardware but image-processing has definitely improved. Better handling for larger lenses is what I'm after. For smaller primes, I have the GX1.
     
  6. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    I don't disagree with anything you wrote, I'm sure you are correct, just not sure I want/need the 45-200 size and reach. Guess B&H/Panasonic got my attention with that $200 discount, a good tactic.

    Maybe I should just buy a G5 and 35-100 that I know I want and forget the complexity of adding the 45-150. Possibly less money out-of-pocket in the long run and I'll have the complete three lens m4/3 kit I want/need [with nothing extra]. Only negative is that I will have paid full retail for the new 35-100, which looking to the past seems will drop a few hundred or more in coming months.
     
  7. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    That's about where I am with the G5/GX1 combo idea. Though I'd like to try some video in the future, I'm only a stills shooter, the G5 should work, any added video capability currently means nothing to me.
     
  8. mfj197

    mfj197 Mu-43 Regular

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    Aug 20, 2012
    Guildford, UK
    Michael
    No, sorry, I'd have to disagree here. The 45-150 can in no way be called a watered down consumer zoom compared to the old 45-200 (which got pretty soft past 150mm anyway). It is sharper, focuses faster, is also much smaller and half the weight. I saw one review which even went so far as to say the only reason you'd look at the 35-100 over the 45-150 was if you specifically needed the extra 2 stops light gathering capability. Now that might be pushing it a bit (35-100 is weather sealed, for example) but it shows how things have come on from an IQ perspective.

    Michael
     
  9. mfj197

    mfj197 Mu-43 Regular

    80
    Aug 20, 2012
    Guildford, UK
    Michael
    I think you're right - in many ways the G5 is a slightly better stills camera than the GH2. Slight IQ improvements as you mention, ergonomics at least as good if not better, silent shutter, touch screen to change focus point whilst using EVF, smaller body, menu improvements etc. The only downside is it doesn't make use of the oversize multi-aspect sensor that both cameras apparently share.

    Michael
     
  10. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    And isn't that strange? I know Panasonic likes to cripple its cameras to preserve the hierarchy but even cameras like my old compact LX3 have a multi-aspect sensor. I'll bet this just comes down to faulty groupthink in the marketing department.
     
  11. LDBecker

    LDBecker Mu-43 Rookie

    14
    Dec 8, 2012
    I have the G5 and 14-140 for a walk-around lens - the 35-100 wasn't out yet. The 14-140 is great for reach but sometimes too slow - good thing the G5 is pretty good with higher iso shots. If I were just starting now and needed a walk-around lens, the 35-100 2.8, while really pricey, would be a great, great lens to get. I had the Canon 70-200 2.8 and loved it, except for the weight and bulk.

    Larry
     
  12. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    Surely the field of view of the 14-140 is fantastic and appealing, though I've never owned or used such a wide range zoom lens. I still own a first gen. 70-200L f/2.8 Canon, but I hate hauling it around. In fact a motorcycle assignment I took the 70-200 on a couple months ago really made the size and weight stand out. Just the Canon 5D2 and 24-70L f/2.8 is plenty large and heavy on a motorcycle. This moto trip probably unconsciously started me down this m4/3 path. I've started to use my 70-200 Canon a bit more recently, seeing what it can do for me and the images I can make with it, but I just don't like lugging it around, or even pulling it out to put on a body. I'm hoping that I might get much more use out of the Panasonic 35-100 just because it's not so large and heavy.

    If it wasn't for this crazy offer/rebate to have the 45-150 for $100 above the kit price from B&H I would simply buy the G5 body and not entertain a tele lens other than the 35-100; but for only $100 extra? Even though it's slow, I can foresee times when shooting outside in good light that the added tele on the long end might be helpful. Of course I could also make an argument for waiting and just buying the 100-300 later if I needed a really long m4/3 lens.

    Anyone want to help push me over the edge on the G5 kit and 45-100 by offering to buy the G5's kit lens for $70 plus shipping? :wink:
     
  13. BAXTING

    BAXTING Mu-43 Top Veteran

    806
    Aug 5, 2012
    Los Angeles SFV, CA
    Bradley
    Hmmm I have a gx1 and just received my new G5. I also have the new 45-150 and it serves as my only zoom/tele lens.

    The 45-150 is super light and pretty small considering. I do wish it had an ext OIS button, but soon I will be used to it not having one. As far as appearances go it looks great since its metal vs plastic. Im happy I got one, but I don't need more than 150mm.

    I got the G5 because ive found that Ive been using the EVF on the gx1 most of the time and when using any heavier manual lenses the gx1 is not so easy for me to hold because of the weight. The G5 fixed that. Oddly enough the 45-150 was great on the gx1 because it is so light and small.
     
  14. zapatista

    zapatista Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 19, 2012
    Denver, Colorado, USA
    Mike
    Seems to me the 45-175mm is the best of the "consumer" Panasonic mid level zooms. I've used the 45-200mm and at the long end the 45-175mm is the only one of the 3 tested as sharp as at 45mm. I've got a decent copy. It only weighs 10 grams more than the 45-150mm and uses internal focus.
     
  15. zapatista

    zapatista Mu-43 Top Veteran

    668
    Mar 19, 2012
    Denver, Colorado, USA
    Mike
    The 45-150mm isn't even close to the IQ of the 35-100mm from every review I've seen and just looking at Panasonic's mtf charts (plus posted photos). There's good reason beyond the constant aperture f2.8 why the 35-100mm is ~$1100 more. The 45-150mm is just ok: light and not very good @ 150mm.
     
  16. dre_tech

    dre_tech Mu-43 Veteran

    314
    Jan 31, 2012
    You probably meant internal zooming. Both the 45-175 & 35-100 have that. At $100 extra for the 45-150 I think it's worth buying.

    I'll say that I'm quite happy with the 45-175, mine doesn't get much use just because I usually use wide-angle when I travel. The 7-14 & 12-35 are my favorites.
     
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  17. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    I think you're correct...

    However, I've started to think critically about the final/total cost. Needing to buy the kit for an extra $100 to get the 45-150 lens for $100 is starting to look less appealing.
     
  18. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    I found your post helpful, redirecting me to what's important for my m4/3 kit. While the 35-100 is still expensive (full retail) it's the one remaining lens I need to complete a simple three lens kit, and the perfect compliment to the 7-14 & 12-35. Those lenses and two bodies should do almost everything I need to do, until it's time for much longer telephoto.
     
  19. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    Thanks for the input guys.

    I decided against the G5 kit and 'extra' 45-150 lens. Purchased a G5 body only from Amazon.
     
  20. musicmaster

    musicmaster Mu-43 Rookie

    20
    Nov 19, 2012
    Dangit! I would have bought the 45-150 from you!!!