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µ43 & Sports.. Oh No! Never.

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Alanroseman, Oct 10, 2011.

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  1. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    We had a "rain date" makeup game today. Dighton Rehoboth vs. Case HS.

    Nice sunny day, shot for awhile with the Panny 45-200. Hand held, not too bad.

    The rest are here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/xJAJv5c7XUH1s3ZWcBtirTp1Q21tL5TOzjHAhFWBnUU?feat=directlink

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    Alanroseman, Oct 10, 2011
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  2. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther Mu-43 Legend

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    Nice series!
     
    RT_Panther, Oct 10, 2011
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  3. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

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    Very nice, Alan!
     
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  4. phigmov

    phigmov Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

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    Great series ! :2thumbs:

    Those eye protector thingys are interesting. Certainly didn't have them in my day . . . then again I last played field hockey 18 years ago. Definitely an under-rated sport - great fun.
     
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  5. hkpzee

    hkpzee Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Patrick
    Really nice sport photos!

    Alan, which focus model did you use? The targets are incredibly sharp!
     
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  6. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    It's been some years since my last involvement with Field Hockey. The goggles are a relatively new addition to the sport, been incorporated over the past 10 years. Makes perfect sense when you think about it.


    Hi hkpzee,

    I use "center focus" and AFS. These were shot with a G1... "ancient" by the gear aficionado standards.

    As a general rule, I have to fight against over sharpening in my photography. Shooting action or sports though, lends itself well to my proclivity for crisping things up.

    These are all shot RAW and processed with one simple Aperture 3 preset which I saved specifically for the 45-200.
    Glad you enjoyed them.

    Cheers, Alan
     
    Alanroseman, Oct 11, 2011
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  7. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Jason
    Nice shots.

    Field Hockey? Highschool? Wow. We don't see things like that down here in the south. One might see a bunch of kids playing street hockey on foot or on skates. The college I graduated from here in Huntsville actually has a 1A Ice hockey team, the southern most team for any college to have an ice hockey team.
     
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  8. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Hi

    My oldest graduated from "the University of the South" in Sewanee, TN. They were the southern most University playing Field Hockey.

    I didn't know you were an old hockey fan...
     
    Alanroseman, Oct 11, 2011
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  9. sLorenzi

    sLorenzi Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sidinei
    Excellent set! :) 
    I ordered a 45-200 (haven't received it yet), and was a little worried, because it's treated almost as a dog in the forums out there, but looking at your pictures I thought -wow, sharp, nice contrast and beautiful colors. Thanks.
     
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  10. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

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    This is a great set, Alan! :thumbup:
     
    Ned, Oct 11, 2011
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  11. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Jason
    Hey, I'm not old :tongue:

    I don't mind watching college hockey live. Other than that, I'm not much of a Hockey fan.

    University of Alabama in Huntsville has a Ice Hockey team, most southern Division 1 Hockey school. Actually, they won the Division II hockey championship in 99, but NCAA got rid of division II hockey a year later, and since then they've been pretty mediocre.

    Sewanee is only about 45 minutes from here.
     
    Djarum, Oct 11, 2011
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  12. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Nice set Alan! I don't think many would argue that you can't do SOME sports photography with m43 - its just not as good at the real intense level of sports shooting that requires real time viewing in burst mode and super fast, super long lenses. Like the closeup of the batter JUST as the ball contacts the bat. You can get those with m43, but its much more of a crapshoot because once you start a burst (say just as the pitcher is releasing the ball - if you can keep track of that with your other eye), you're really kind of flying blind until the burst finishes. But for the kind of non-professional sports shooting most of us do, m43 is more than fine.

    I have to admit though, that I used to have some trouble nailing AF with the 45-200 and the 100-300 on the older m43 cameras. With the EPL1, EP2, and GF1, I'd get a LOT more misses than hits trying to shoot any kind of action with those lenses. Once the GH2 came along, and now with the EPL3, the faster AF seems to result in a much higher hit rate for me at these types of events. So that you got those with a G1 is doubly impressive to me!

    -Ray
     
    Ray Sachs, Oct 11, 2011
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  13. shnitz

    shnitz Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Sharpness OK, not enough isolation. The bokeh in a few of those make my eyes hurt, specifically numbers 2 and 4. Thanks for sharing though.
     
    shnitz, Oct 11, 2011
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  14. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    New England
    Hi Ray,

    I'm sure you know it's partly tongue in cheek.

    I don't think µ43 as system is ready to tackle pro sports, or take its place in field side press boxes around the world.

    On the other hand, I find it comical when soccer Moms are advised against µ43 because they'll obviously need a Canikon to take a picture of junior trotting up the sidelines of the soccer field.

    If I were making a living taking sports pictures I'd want a big honking DSLR too. As far as taking pics of my kids and grandkids playing sports.. I don't feele the need.

    Just having fun Ray..

    Alan



     
    Alanroseman, Oct 11, 2011
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  15. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

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    Dec 21, 2010
    New England
    Hi Shinitz,

    Who would have thought that such a highly regarded lens would produce "busy and distracted bokeh" :smile:

    We're all aware of the limitations faced shooting the 45-200. Still though, for the price it's a fun lens to have in the bag for days such as the one captured here.

    Cheers, Alan
     
    Alanroseman, Oct 11, 2011
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  16. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Near Philadephila
    Gotcha Alan. That's how I use it too. And, yeah, it should be more than enough for any soccer mom, football dad, whatever!

    -Ray
     
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  17. digitalandfilm

    digitalandfilm Mu-43 All-Pro

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    You don't need a big honkin' DSLR with huge white lenses.. just have to be patient, plan your shots and work around the shortcomings of the :43: setups.

    I actually like using the EVF-2 and the G3's viewfinder because it seems to be more consistant and reliable for me.
     
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  18. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Bob
    Exactly! Once again - it's the photographer, not the gear. A skilled photographer can use :43: to accomplish most of what a dslr will do.
     
    RevBob, Oct 11, 2011
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  19. shnitz

    shnitz Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Colorado Springs, CO
    Alan, were you by chance using image stabilization for these shots? Specifically numbers 2 and 5 that I mentioned? Thanks!
     
    shnitz, Oct 14, 2011
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