POW camp 30 - Bowmanville, Ontario (Urban decay shots with 7-14)

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  1. sabesh

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    Bowmnaville, Camp 30 (WW-II POW camp)
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    These buildings, now derelict, housed about 800 high ranking German officers who served during the 2nd world war. Some notable POWs (Prisoners of war):

    Korvettenkapitan, Otto Kretschmer - Most successful submarine commander of WW-II.
    General, Johann von Ravenstein - second-in-command to Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Afrika Korps).

    More info here:

    Camp 30, Bowmanville, History

    For entire set with larger images, click here:

    Camp 30, Bowmanville, Flickr set

    Recreation room:
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    Swimming pool:
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    Cafeteria:
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    Library:
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    Basketball court:
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  2. Streetshooter

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    Good job, you captured the scenes very well...
    shooter
     
  3. Bokeh Diem

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    I can hear the voices, some plaintive, some still grasping at hollow authority, ringing off those walls. The place is a graveyard for all those tyrannical ideals that infected the minds of proud men, all of them bit actors in a much larger play.

    Thank you for the shared work.

    Bokeh Diem
     
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    I'm glad that you'all enjoyed the shots! Cheers.
     
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    haunting as good urban decay is .... i hear the echoes from here
     
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    Being a history buff with an interest in WWII, this outing was special for me. Cheers.
     
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    Nice photos / presentations of the "rooms". What gets me is the amenities that POW's got here...

    A swimming pool?
    Library?
    Basketball court?

    They were much more generous than I would be if I were the one designing a prison for people trying to kill me.
     
  8. sabesh

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    I hear ya. It appeared more like a country club. I was surprised to see that. I guess they treated the officers (prisoners) with comfort. Cheers.
     
  9. Streetshooter

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    I didn't want to mention this in my 1st post. Squeegee made a good point about conditions. I've seen much worse, so much so that I wouldn't post the images.

    Sabesh, I guess it's fairly obvious that this is an issue I am involved in.
    I would like to know if I could show some of these to some members of a few organizations I work with? There would be no copyright issues at all, it would be just so that a few key people could see the conditions here at this camp.

    Let me know...thanks Shooter
     
  10. sabesh

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    Shooter, no worries, you can show these to them. A point to be aware of: This camp wasn't specifically built as a POW camp. It's a compound that had been a delinquent boys school prior to the war. Excerpt from the Wiki:

    Bowmanville, Ontario - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
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    Sabesh,
    That's what makes it interesting.
    Thanks....
     
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    Cool. The entire set can be seen here:

    Camp 30, Bowmanville

    Cheers,

    Sabesh.
     
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    I already checked the set. I have a Major Meeting Memorial Day Weekend and these photos will be a topic to discuss.
    I will inform you of the responses they bring.
    Don
     
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    after ww2 many high ranking people of germany were folded into the american administrative, political, business,'national security" and scientific arenas , this was by design. brown brother harriman in banking and IBM in computing were 2 of many american businesses that did business with nazi germany in the war and were not punished for it, coke became fanta in germany and it was business as usual ,... considering.
    this was largely hidden from the american people, while the exploits of of the charismatic werner von braun
    were much paraded in the newsreels to lend an air of legitimacy to this troublesome
    event .
    closer to our own time , some of the more murderous high ranking ghouls from the much reviled east german sercret police which had terrorized its citizens for many decades were brought to america during the bush years and given cushy positions within americas national shame, the "homeland security" administration

    while im not surprised to see this coddling treatment of high level nazis by the allies
    i had assumed it was entirely a post war thing ..... apparently not, as these guys waere getting english lesson live theatre and puppet shows!


    i dont know why you say there was very little to do , in your excellent brief description
    you note: gardening ...sporting ... swimming .... beer & cigs .....tennis courts ......a furniture factory.....english language university courses ,.... naval college courses ...., work assignments ...catologue shopping . and of course puppet shows !
    i think they had lots to do !......... and a brave new world to inhabit ....maybe instead of women they had eric cartman style jennifer lopez hand puppets,lol


    anyway a fascinating and excellent photo documentary work of urban decay \ building decay, very well seen and presented , and given facinating description
    thanks for your efforts
     
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    I don't have the exact number of POW/MIA from outside of The USA but I do have that....

    Friends of the Forgotten, POW Issue
    this shows over 78,000 still unaccounted for just from WW2.
    A real disgrace.
     
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    Excellent series! Great work - thanks for sharing the images and the history too!
     
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    Sabesh - a great series. I have posted over on Flickr on your set's first page and will go back in to look again more slowly. The slide show function on Flickr is a great way to see these. Many thanks for the photographs and the history.
     
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    BTW, I didn't say that, it was a quote from the Wikipedia :) I'm glad that you approve. Best regards!


    Thanks for the link. That's an interesting read indeed.



    Thanks! I'm glad that you'all enjoyed the pics and the story. Cheers.
     

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