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Old January 14th, 2013, 08:21 AM
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I don't know why anyone's surprised at the $600 price tag. A good simple teleconverter costs at least $500, and that is nowhere near as optically complicated as a focal reducer. $600 is a frickin' steal. This is a multi-use lens which can change the characteristics of all kinds of lenses you mount with it. It's like getting a whole new collection of lenses for $600, while we would have no problems paying $600 for just one lens.
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Strange thing is that it would also take away one more reason for Pros/Proam's not to change over to m4/3 as their glass would no longer be "obsolete"!

Problem is it will mean the price for second hand glass will not drop either.

I can see how you would get more light onto the sensor and therefore a "lower" effective f number as it's just the opposite effect to a 2X converter but I cannot get my head round the physics of what happens to the DOF - does it end up as the same as the FF?
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Interesting. I'm not into adapted lenses, but I'm gonna keep my eye on this thread.

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Strange thing is that it would also take away one more reason for Pros/Proam's not to change over to m4/3 as their glass would no longer be "obsolete"!
If it doesn't have AF, it's still obsolete, unless you're a video shooter!

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Problem is it will mean the price for second hand glass will not drop either.
I can't imagine second-hand legacy glass dropping any more. It's already higher than it was in 2007-2008.

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I can see how you would get more light onto the sensor and therefore a "lower" effective f number as it's just the opposite effect to a 2X converter but I cannot get my head round the physics of what happens to the DOF - does it end up as the same as the FF?
Yes. 25/1.5 on DX has the same DoF (almost) as 35/2 on FX. You are after all projecting the same AoV and the same physical aperture size.
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I don't know why anyone's surprised at the $600 price tag. A good simple teleconverter costs at least $500, and that is nowhere near as optically complicated as a focal reducer. $600 is a frickin' steal. This is a multi-use lens which can change the characteristics of all kinds of lenses you mount with it. It's like getting a whole new collection of lenses for $600, while we would have no problems paying $600 for just one lens.
I believe the high price is because it has electronics to allow for AF, I.S. and aperture control on the Sony cameras, that and the fact that it is not a high volume item.
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Question--will the DOF change in relation to the new f-stop or is it still equivalent to the old one?
The composite lens will act as the equivalence (0.7x focal length and 1 stop wider), which if memory serves means the depth of field will increase. You need 2x the aperture to remain the same DoF at the shorter focal length equivalent. i.e. a 100mm @ F2 is the same DoF as a 70mm @ F1 (but the convertor will make the 100mm F2 into a 70 F1.4)
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I like to think that a 0.7x adapter doesnt really change a 35 1.4 lens into a 25 1.0 lens but instead makes it a 35 1.4 (35mm equivalent) on a camera with an APS C sensor.
With regards to exposure, you would have to shoot it as if it were an f/1.0 lens
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Just got this message from Metabones about when can we expect their M43 version release:

"For EF to M43 around June
other around Feb to March"
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Take the Sigma 30mm f1.4 DX lens. With the Metabones reducer, this becomes a 21mm f1.0. Put that on your m43 body for an equivalent 42mm f1.0.

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