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Old July 19th, 2012, 02:32 PM
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A couple of hours ago, 43rumors and mirrorless rumors posted a blurry pic of what was purported to be Canon's MILC. (excuse me: DSLM). Then they pulled it.

The lens on it had the look of Canon, the body was quite thin. Overall, it had the look of the NEX, with a real thin body and a too big lens.

I don't know if it was real, or why they pulled it. But if it accurately reflected the proportions of Canon's effort, I'm not interested. Sony NEX all over again (but maybe with a better line up of lenses down the road.)
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I'm not sure what you mean exactly about "too big lenses".. Zeiss 24 1.8 is 224g, just 24 extra grams compared to Panasonic 25/1.4. Sony 50/1.8 is 202g which is 86 grams heavier than Olympus 45/1.8, but Sony's got OIS... Sony 18-55 is 194g which is the same as Panasonic 14-45, and Sony 55-210 is 343g, which is in between the heavier Panasonic 45-200 and lighter 45-175. Sony's NEX camera with in-built viewfinder is lighter than anything in mft range (with EVF).

Basically you can have a camera (NEX-7) with 2 primes (24, 50) and 2 zooms (18-55, 55-210) weighing ~ the same as an mft camera with built-in EVF with two primes (25, 45) and 2 zooms (14-45, 45-175/200). Yet with Sony you get better image quality, but the size and weight are roughly the same.

The problem of NEX system is the lack of lenses, not the size and weight.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 03:06 PM
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That was a picture of a Ricoh GXR.

Maybe Ricoh makes a mirrorless cameras for Canon, like Panasonic made compact cameras for Leica?
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Old July 19th, 2012, 03:18 PM
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I agree with you that the big issue with NEX is that is seems to be lacking in lenses - in quantity and quality.

But there is really a size difference. Grams add up and there is even a bigger difference in volume. You can measure against the 25/1.4, but that is one of the chunkier m4/3 lenses.

We have had this discussion way too many time, I know. I will say, though, that I am always checking out NEX (and interested in the Canon also)... just hasn't made sense for me to invest in a body, before the lenses are there (especially since the new body versions come out every year).


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I'm not sure what you mean exactly about "too big lenses".. Zeiss 24 1.8 is 224g, just 24 extra grams compared to Panasonic 25/1.4. Sony 50/1.8 is 202g which is 86 grams heavier than Olympus 45/1.8, but Sony's got OIS... Sony 18-55 is 194g which is the same as Panasonic 14-45, and Sony 55-210 is 343g, which is in between the heavier Panasonic 45-200 and lighter 45-175. Sony's NEX camera with in-built viewfinder is lighter than anything in mft range (with EVF).

Basically you can have a camera (NEX-7) with 2 primes (24, 50) and 2 zooms (18-55, 55-210) weighing ~ the same as an mft camera with built-in EVF with two primes (25, 45) and 2 zooms (14-45, 45-175/200). Yet with Sony you get better image quality, but the size and weight are roughly the same.

The problem of NEX system is the lack of lenses, not the size and weight.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 10:55 PM
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This was just posted on POTN, supposedly from a Chinese photography site:



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The lens look decent but the camera looks soooooooooooo ugly. Uglier than p&s.
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what about the flange distance if using the EOS lens on the pocketable mirrorless?
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The perspective on this pic is completely wrong. Where is the EVF fitted? Or there is no EVF? Lens size also looks smaller than it should be, IMHO.

Very blunt looking, but then again this isn't the main issue.
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Flange distance is no issue with the right adaptor.
Power demand of EF or EF-S lenses is more likely to be a problem.
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