Thanks for the replies, I should of mentioned that photo's 1, 3 & 4 was with the Panasonic 20mm lens and no. 2 with the canon FD50 f1/8 lens. these were taken RAW converted into black & white in Silkypix and then I warm then up a litte to give that slight sepia look.
1 and 2 I wish I had open the lens up more to reduce the back ground detail, although I am happy how 3 turned out.