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July 16th, 2012, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinparis
In this particular situation, a crowded bar in low light, the size advantages of micro 4/3 came into play. [...] Add to that acceptable high ISO and a relatively quiet shutter and you have a very capable package for this kind of work.
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The recent posts I see a parallel: they all have a human and intimate component. Family and human interest, nature at human limits, human masses cramped indoors.
I wish I could call the shutter of my PL3 quiet... !CLUNKKK!
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July 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM
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I'd guess that images captured with the M. Zuiko 75mm ƒ1.8 (150mm equivalent) would fall into the "Only m43" category.
Anything else IMHO is subjective as Krugorg stated...
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July 16th, 2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RT_Panther
M. Zuiko 75mm ƒ1.8 (150mm equivalent) would fall into the "Only m43" category.
Anything else IMHO is subjective as Krugorg stated...
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Indeed the mentioned advantages are not technical per se. But then again, there was no request for generalizations. I like that even though subjective, all statements are of the works/won't work (for me) kind. One could say they are based on real-world experiences where many parameters play a role, most of which cannot be calculated.
On the technical side however, and this really surprises me, is there no other system or camera with a lens like the 75mm 1.8? Wow.
Last edited by pheaukus; July 16th, 2012 at 01:17 PM.
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July 16th, 2012, 01:08 PM
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The IBIS in the OM-D is the only thing
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July 16th, 2012, 01:17 PM
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It is easy to quote examples where the weight and bulk of a DSLR would deter you from carrying it, or could possibly intimidate the subject. That these are good reasons for choosing m4/3 is undeniable.
However, the choice available is not restricted only to DSLR and m4/3. People can use a similar justification for choosing a compact P&S or a compact system camera that is smaller then m4/3, such as Nikon's 1 Series or even the Pentax Q. All of these are not only easier to carry than DSLRs, and less intimidating, but they are actually better than m4/3 in these two respects. Some of them are truly pocketable, something that isn't actually true of m4/3 unless you have particularly large pockets.
If a reasonably large sensor is a priority, there are p&s digicams like the Canon G1 X and the Sony RX100. The G1X has a sensor that is slightly larger than m4/3 and the RX100 shares its sensor size (although not its pixel count) with the Nikon 1 Series. Both give excellent results that are for almost all purposes indistinguishable from m4/3.
So if anyone is going to truthfully claim that "Only m43 could do the job!" they have to try just a little harder than merely saying "My DSLR was too heavy/bulky/intimidating for this shot" when a smaller (but still high IQ) P&S could have done the job equally well and be truly pocketable too.
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July 16th, 2012, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CUB
So if anyone is going to truthfully claim that "Only m43 could do the job!" they have to try just a little harder than merely saying "My DSLR was too heavy/bulky/intimidating for this shot" when a smaller (but still high IQ) P&S could have done the job equally well and be truly pocketable too.
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This is true for some circumstances, to be sure. What I personally don't see in other offerings aside from m4/3 is a compact, high IQ, interchangeable lens camera system complete with a wide array of quality lenses. Other CSCs have different appeal (larger sensors, or focus peaking on NEX for example). They may even have some individually great lenses, but to date no one else has the wide array available on m4/3.
Note that I'm not a rabid m4/3 fan; I'm invested heavily in the system to be sure, but I'm more than happy to use and enjoy other systems. I currently own an X100 and a Canon S95 in addition to my m4/3 gear, and I've looked strongly at the X-Pro1, Sony NEX, Samsung's offerings, and Canon & Nikon DSLRs. What's kept me happily using m4/3 is the combination of all of the above features.
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July 16th, 2012, 01:33 PM
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July 16th, 2012, 01:35 PM
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It may be a bit of a stretch to say that only a µ4/3 camera could have made this shot possible. But I know I never would have hauled a full-frame DSLR out to the place from where I took it, nor bothered with a P&S.
I was on a week-long, springtime motorcycle trip through Death Valley and the SoCal deserts with minimal gear when a local in Lone Pine alerted me to this arch up in the nearby Alabama Hills. He gave me only the vaguest of directions, and let me know that I'd be hoofing it over rough terrain (in stiff motorcycle boots) for about an hour to get there. So I decided to take only my GH2 and 20mm f/1.7 lens, which I could pocket in my motorcycle jacket.
After much cross-country scrambling at sunrise through washes and clambering over boulders, I eventually found the spot. But I had to lie down in a prone position across a boulder and hold my camera well below me to capture Mt. Whitney in the center of the arch. The GH2's articulating screen made the shot possible.
So yes, the pocketabilty, light weight, articulating screen, and excellent lens made it not only possible to take this photo, but I never would have gone out there with a big, heavy DSLR, nor a cheap P&S camera. Only a µ4/3 system made it worthwhile for me.
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July 16th, 2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CUB
If a reasonably large sensor is a priority, there are p&s digicams like the Canon G1 X and the Sony RX100. The G1X has a sensor that is slightly larger than m4/3 and the RX100 shares its sensor size (although not its pixel count) with the Nikon 1 Series. Both give excellent results that are for almost all purposes indistinguishable from m4/3.
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I'm pretty sure all sensor size gaps will be filled with both systems and compacts soon
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Originally Posted by CUB
So if anyone is going to truthfully claim that "Only m43 could do the job!" they have to try just a little harder
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Looking at the range of cameras currently available, my uneducated guess is that that can be said for every camera choice except for extreme niche applications (Hubble Telescope e.a.). Hence the focus of this thread is on personal choices of individuals.
/ and in fact, posters put their opinion in perspective
Last edited by pheaukus; July 16th, 2012 at 01:53 PM.
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