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Old June 23rd, 2012, 12:41 AM
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Hi all, i am new to this forum and currently owning a canon 60d. My main reason for photo shooting is on my family, particularly my new born baby.
However the camera become a "home" camera after my baby born. I just have too many things to carry and have to give up the bulky 60d when going out.
Here i am, explored and found the OMD!

Can anyone give me some advise on the ISO 3200 performance comparison? As i cant use flash to baby. And is the auto focus fast enough to catch baby motion?

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Can anyone give me some advise on the ISO 3200 performance comparison? As i cant use flash to baby.
To put it bluntly, the E-M5 is leagues ahead of the 60D.

Do a comparative test for yourself: Olympus OM-D E-M5 Review: Digital Photography Review



Personally though, I would invest in a faster lens over bumping up the ISO. However, if this is the way you've been doing it up until now, then you'll still have much better capabilities with the E-M5.

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And is the auto focus fast enough to catch baby motion?

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Again, if you're using native lenses then it's leagues ahead of your 60D. It's also more accurate, and doesn't require tuning for front focus or back focus.
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Thanks Ned, the reason why i need to bump ISO is for night time in-door shooting while not having flash(not good for baby eye). I am already using 17-55 f2.8 wide open but cant avoid high ISO due to low light.

Baby shooting is sometimes harder than bird shooting! Due to the unexpected movement!!!
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Thanks Ned, the reason why i need to bump ISO is for night time in-door shooting while not having flash(not good for baby eye). I am already using 17-55 f2.8 wide open but cant avoid high ISO due to low light.

Baby shooting is sometimes harder than bird shooting! Due to the unexpected movement!!!
If you think baby movement is hard to focus, wait till they grow up to a few years old running around, then you will know it's even harder. In that case the 60D tracking AF will be better than O-MD.
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Omd is my choice ,I don't have one but I would certainly go that way in your shoes.
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A friend of mine shoots with Canon gear, he bought the 50 f1.4 for exactly your purpose. Got some really nice shots of his little lad.
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Some things to consider about flash and infant's eyes: The sun is considerably brighter than any flash and babies don't go blind if the sun gets in their eyes. Once the ISO is set to 800 or higher, a flash doesn't have to put out much light for a good exposure. It isn't like shooting at ISO 100 @ f11.


Really neither me or my two boys (27 & 19) have gone blind, or had eye problems due to flash being used when we were babies.
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Saying that the em-5 is leagues ahead of the 60d when it comes to ISO performance without considering whether the OP uses strictly JPEG or raw, in my opinion, is just plain ******ism, specially if one has not used both at the same time.

I have both and I can honestly say that they are pretty close, maybe a little bit better on the em-5. I shoot raw all the time and they both clean up pretty well in lightroom.

Straight-up jpeg, as already posted by other members here, em-5 just thrashes the 60d, what with its newer processor and processing engine. It is also easier to focus on fairly stationary subjects.

You are gonna have a hard time selling your 60d though, specially if you're not willing to cut the price on it significantly. I know because that's where I'm in now.
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I think we can all agree the E-M5 will fit the bill nicely from a photo quality standpoint, so really that part of it is a non-issue. But your other point about wanting to downsize your gear? That is the real thing we should talk about. As a father of twin 7 year olds, I went down that road with the Canon 5D marks 1 & 2. I can attest that having less to carry at all times is paramount. So, if you can get away with the same or better photo gear in a much smaller load you just have to do that. You only have so many arms. I can't begin to tell you how much I wish the E-M5 (or something like it) was around 7 years ago!

Since babies don't move around very fast (yet!), the m4/3 normal primes are awesome to have on your camera because the focal length is perfect for those close-in shots, and they work so well in low-lighting situations. Keeping the theme of small load-size normally I'd recommend the panny 20mm lens, but in your case (lower light-higher ISO) that wouldn't work because of the well publicised and very real banding problem with that lens on the E-M5 in those conditions*. Therefore, probably the more expensive pana-leica 25mm would better suit your photographic concerns. It is bigger than the 20, but still much smaller/lighter than equivalent lenses for your Canon. It is very fast & works extremely well in low light, you'd probably not need to dip into those higher ISO's you asked about very often.

The great news for you is that you are getting into m4/3 at the perfect time. The lens family is really starting to take shape, with many excellent choices to pick from. And it is maturing quickly with faster zooms and third-party manufacturers jumping on board with serious contributions. The format will continue to grow up right along with your family. How cool is that?



*Olympus is evidently trying to come up with a firmware fix for this, so don't cross it off your list just yet

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you can purchase one of the diffusers too for your flash. I purchased a Gary Fong type diffuser and used it when photographing my first grandchild. I would highly recommend the Omd to you too....fantastic camera in low light situations.
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