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Old August 12th, 2012, 07:11 AM
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Thanks for the review. The response here compared to that over on another popular forum also reiterates to me what a great place this forum is compared to pretty much any other photography forum. Thanks all.
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Old August 12th, 2012, 07:44 AM
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meyerweb, thanks for your detailed analysis. Your thoughts mirror mine, and are why I returned the OM-D to Amazon for a refund, much preferring almost everything about my GX1.
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Thanks a lot for putting so much effort into this .I love OLy and Panasonic UI and had never any trouble with it. Having said that , I am also not very much convinced with weather sealing thing on OMD.I am holding back my purchase of OMD and have just ordered Panasonic GX1 .
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Regardless of it being technically "not nice", I'm think that Ray's post was a somewhat warranted response, but it doesn't need to go any further than that. It seems to be easy to forget that just because someone thinks a camera is or isn't serious, doesn't make it so for everyone. Meyerweb has hosed down more enthusiasm over the E-M5 than just about anyone on this forum, but at least here seems to have provided a reasoned albeit predictable analysis based on what is important to him in a camera and didn't resort to insulting anyone for preferring one camera over the other. It's no great concern of mine if someone prefers Olympus over Panasonic, or the GH2 over the E-M5, but I don't want to have to read through ANOTHER thread that becomes a slanging match over the E-M5.
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Raw is for amateurs who can't get their settings right the first time.

I shoot jpeg mostly (only raw for critical shoots) and a friend who shoots raw. Whenever he shoots under/over exposed images he always harps how it's okay, he shot raw. I always get on his case and ask him, "why doesn't he just shoot right the first time?" In my eyes, I see raw shooting as a crutch for some (not all) photographers who can't get their settings right or someone who fiddles more in post production than focusing on the moment and mood.
I though that a crutch was a tool for people who don't want to hop on one leg.

P.S. How the hell did we get here from there? A while back we had to create a special thread for these.
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P.S. How the hell did we get here from there? A while back we had to create a special thread for these.
I've moved the RAW vs JPEG comments from this thread to that one: The 'RAW vs JPEG' Depot
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I agree with all the shortcomings you mentioned of the E-M5.

For entertainment sake, some scrolling through DPR should look at the responses here vs. there: OM-D compared to GH2 -- my thoughts (LONG) [Page 1]: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Again, entertaining to read how hostile DPR can get in no time
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Any additional thoughts on the video function of each?
I really haven't done much with video on either. My general feeling, though, is that if you want to do simple amateur video of friends and family either will do. If you really want to get serious, the GH2 is the only m43 camera that can honestly compete with professional video rigs that cost many thousands, in some cases 10s of thousands, of dollars more.
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Just in case it wasn't clear (but it should be), I think the OM-D is capable of producing excellent results, in both raw and jpeg :). If it works for you, I think that's great. If the things I consider weaknesses don't bother you, or you value certain of it's strengths more than I do, then it might well be the better choice. As just one example, if I never used AEB, and frequently shot handheld in very low light, the benefits of IBIS would clearly outweigh the disaster (IMHO) of the AEB implementation.

My use of the camera has convinced me that my feeling that much of the hype is unjustified, but that doesn't mean it isn't a very good camera. It's just not the second coming.

If you can't take good photographs with either camera, the problem is more likely behind the camera than the camera itself. The GH2, however, makes taking good pictures easier, for me. For someone else, it might be the OM-D that meets that standard.
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Good discussion. I am currently using a GX1 and an OM-D, as well as an M8 and a D700 and a D300. None are perfect, though I get great results from all and enjoy using each of them...
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