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Old August 4th, 2012, 05:34 PM
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Weather sealing is one of the features many people tout as a major advantage of the OM-D compared to other m43 cameras. It seems that's true only if you don't actually let it get wet.
Awesome! I bet that works with non-weatherproof cameras too!
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Suddenly I'm far less impressed with the supposed "weather sealing" of this camera.
Interesting to note: Olympus advertising state:
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Dust-proof & Splash-proof Construction
Trouble-free shooting in all environments is assured by our proven dust-proof and splash-proof technology. Multiple ring-shaped seals protect the camera from sand, dust, rain, and water spray, making it ideal for all kinds of outdoor shooting.
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Weather Sealing
Full weather sealing throughout the entire body ensures worry-free use in any weather condition
So judging by the adverts above & the Pentax video that I posted earlier (and below), it's my ***guess*** that Pentax bodies are much more environment capable than the OMD.....(Keyword being "guess")

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Yes really.

Page 118 of the English Manual asks users to refer to the 'weatherproofing sections' for details. I don't know of any other weatherproofing 'sections' except the level of sealing is referred to in the specification table, which as I said, is exactly the same specification as the other 4/3 'E' cameras, and anybody who has used one of those in a downpour knows how well they are sealed. It is the terminology that should be ignored, perhaps an unhappy translation, perhaps Olympus being over cautious by calling it 'splash resistant'. But the bottom line is that its the same sealing as all the others, unless we think Olympus are fibbing about 'IEC Standard publication 529 IPX1'? But there has to be some fun to be had with a conspiracy theory

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Page 118:
Water and Moisture — For precautions on products with weatherproof designs, read the weatherproofing sections.

OK, let's search for weatherproofing. Only other hit I get is page 120:
In wet places, such as bathrooms or
in the rain. When using products with weatherproof designs, read their manuals as well.

These pages are nothing but boiler plate. This is not a claim about the capabilities of this specific camera

But on the original topic of this thread, I think the reality is that the owner took the camera out in the rain and didn't have all the seals in place.

Most of the people in this thread are slamming Olympus. Yet, the user clearly admits they don't know if they had the seals on and Olympus found the seal missing.

Sorry, folks but there is something called personal responsibility. Seems like most people today refuse to admit when they make a mistake and want to blame the corporation. Corporations are out for profit so I don't think of them as guiltless. But not in this case. It was user error and Olympus still covered it. I don't see what more people want except it seems to complain for no real reason.
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These pages are nothing but boiler plate. This is not a claim about the capabilities of this specific camera
The statement about its weather resistance is in the camera's specification sheet, it is not a 'claim'. Only the terminology has changed, perhaps because people did abuse the advice as in the beer drenchings and waterfall immersions the E1, E3, and E5 got. See here for spec sheets using the words 'weather sealed' regarding the same industry standard

The Olympus E-5 Compared - Part 6 of 6: Page 3 - Zone-10 - Beyond the Light

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Sorry, folks but there is something called personal responsibility. Seems like most people today refuse to admit when they make a mistake and want to blame the corporation. Corporations are out for profit so I don't think of them as guiltless. But not in this case. It was user error and Olympus still covered it. I don't see what more people want except it seems to complain for no real reason.
This is true only if the manual makes it very clear that the seals, and precisely which ones, are needed. And by "makes it very clear" I don't mean buried in the fine print somewhere on the CD version of the manual. I'm looking at the printed manual now, and this is all I've found:

"For precautions on products with weatherproof designs, read the weatherproofing sections." Guess what, there's no "weatherproofing section" that I can find in the printed manual.

Also, this: "Never hold or operate the camera with wet hands." How the heck are you supposed to use the camera in the rain without getting your hands wet?

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The statement about its weather resistance is in the camera's specification sheet, it is not a 'claim'. Only the terminology has changed, perhaps because people did abuse the advice as in the beer drenchings and waterfall immersions the E1, E3, and E5 got. See here for spec sheets using the words 'weather sealed' regarding the same industry standard

The Olympus E-5 Compared - Part 6 of 6: Page 3 - Zone-10 - Beyond the Light

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IPX1 is a far cry from the hype (not from Olympus, from the forum denizens all over the interwebz) about how great Oly "weather sealing" is. IPX1 basically means it can withstand light splashes from above. It's the absolute lowest standard for water resistance there is. Based on an IPX1 rating, I wouldn't suggest using the camera in even a light rain, much less a heavy rain or standing in the surf (as some people on the web have suggested they intended to do).

I think the claims for weatherproofing are looking like marketing hype, and little more.
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MikeB- I agree with bcalis ... That is a terrible way to discover a missing seal. A complete reading of the manual, while not very pleasant, would be helpful to avoid such unpleasant accidents.

I agree with DHart as there isn't much to see or shoot in the rain. When has to shoot in the rain, simple plastic bags go a long way to keeping camera and lens dry. Your point being that a "weather proof" camera shouldn't need plastic ... and I agree, but a plastic bag or two never hurt.

Sorry, for your loss. But most conditional warranties works two ways ... if it's your fault - you pay and if it's our fault - we pay. Thanks for warning others to inspect the grip seal.

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I'm pleased to hear that it worked out for you. However, I find it very strange that the bottom connector seal is prone to falling off. I tried to pull mine off yesterday, and I'd have to apply considerable force, so I actually didn't take it off. I'd think these things, both the cover and baseplate, would be similar on all the cameras, unless the production process was very inconsistent. Things like this are a bit worrying, although I'm happy with my cam so far.

As a newcomer I'd say this seems like a very sivil and informative forum. Thanks.
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