AEB on the M5 - Page 3

Dave in Wales · #21 August 6th, 2012, 04:31 AM

I'm on V1.2 and have just done some tests.

OK....Look here..OMD HDR (Bracketing) on timer? at my 2 posts and the one in between.

One must keep the shutter button depressed to get a rapid burst of JUST the number of shots selected.

I was confused, easy enough, how can Hi burst and the self timer be set at the same time....Answer they can't, at least I could not find a way.

The above are my findings, but I'm more than willing to be educated.

I have a wireless remote and I thought I'd give that a try..........100m 100 meters Long Range Remote control for Olympus: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics.....it has single shot or self timer mode.

With the camera on Hi burst, remote shutter release on single shot/B.....
The remote shutter release has to be held down or pressed for each shot required.

With the camera on Hi burst, remote shutter release on it's own self-timer.....
The remote shutter is pressed just once, it's own self-timer kicks in and the camera fires a rapid burst of just the required number of shots.

BINGO, Hi burst and self-timer at the same time.

BUT...Why use the remote self-timer when using a wireless remote, just hold the button down

With_Eyes_Unclouded · #22 August 6th, 2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by heedpantsnow

I'm also on 1.1 and can't seem to get this to work. Can anyone else with V1.2 confirm that this works with the 2s timer? Might actually make it worth the risk to update the firmware...

I'm on V1.2.

Can't be done. Period.

What "Dave in Wales" describes above represents the technical reality of the matter.

dcassat · #23 August 6th, 2012, 11:43 AM

Sammyboy, you have an audience that is listening now. But that audience is fading,... fast...

You cannot set the 2 sec timer and put the camera in high speed burst mode at the same time, or ... perhaps YOU can because you read the manual and we haven't?

This feature would be a great addition to the firmware, I agree but why would you possibly post this without any desire to elaborate on how, if true?

We think you're full of hooey man!

michaeln's Gallery · #24 August 6th, 2012, 06:32 PM

I fail to see how 7 shots that took 12 seconds to complete could be considered to be a high speed burst... especially from a camera that can do 9 frames in one second.

dre_tech · #25 August 6th, 2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeln

I fail to see how 7 shots that took 12 seconds to complete could be considered to be a high speed burst... especially from a camera that can do 9 frames in one second.

Well it's not, but that may not be the point, if setting it to burst would allow us to take all 3/5/7 exposure automagically with a delay of 2sec but without holding down the shutter release.

I guess the remote is still the best way to trigger all the shots and not move the camera on the initial shutter press.

I have v1.2 as well, changes nothing in this regard, as far as I can tell.

michaeln's Gallery · #26 August 7th, 2012, 02:23 PM

Received this just now from Olympus Tech Support:

"Dear Michael,

Thank you for contacting Olympus with your inquiry.

The E-M5 does not have the ability to shoot 7 bracketed frames on a timer, but there is a work-around that can accomplish a similar action. It requires the use of a wired cable release, such as this one:
https://us.buyolympus.com/remote-cab...se-rm-uc1.html

As you will notice, you can't set the timer and the sequential shooting option, as they are two separate Drive modes that can not be combined. To get around this, you can use the anti-shock feature, found on the Gear E menu. You can set anti shock from 1/8th of a second up to 30 seconds. Set the anti-shock to the length of time you would like to have as a 'timer'. When selecting the drive mode, the anti-shock options have a 'diamond' shape beside the options that can be selected, along with non-anti-shock options. Since anti-shock delays the shooting by the amount of time you selected, make sure to use a non anti-shock drive mode when trying to use the camera normally.

So, with anti shock set (let's say to 8 seconds), and with bracketing set, and with the drive mode set to sequential (with the diamond shape beside it for anti-shock use), you are ready to shoot. So, you would frame your picture, set the lock on the shutter release, and take the picture.

The wired shutter release's purpose in this is that it locks the shutter down so that after the first picture is taken, it will continue to take pictures until it takes all the bracketed photos for that group, and then it stops. You would have to release the lock mechanism on the shutter release to resume normal operation once it is done.

Anti-shock functions as the timer, since the timer can not be selected with the sequential drive as an option too. The only drawback is that if your anti-shock is set to eight seconds, after the first eight seconds he first picture is taken, then the camera would wait another 8 seconds, then take the next shot, and so on. Unfortunately I do not have a solution that would wait for X amount of seconds, then take the bracketed photos all at once.

What I have described here is not in the manual, it is more of an improvised solution I have used in the past, using the least amount of additional accessories possible. I hope this solution works for your particular application."

Very nice of the guy to detail that whole thing, but honestly, if that isn't the most ridiculous way to have to go to set up a simple AEB burst I would hate to see a sillier one.

If you're going to use a cable release anyway, you don't have to go through all that, you just plow through the menus to set up your bracketing, switch to high speed burst mode for the release mode and push the release button on the cable release. It'll all be done in less than a second after you push it.

dixeyk · #27 August 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM

This thread is dangerously close to being closed. Keep any further discussion civil and respectful.

RobWatson · #28 August 7th, 2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaeln

Received this just now from Olympus Tech Support:

"Dear Michael,

Thank you for contacting Olympus with your inquiry.

The E-M5 does not have the ability to shoot 7 bracketed frames on a timer, but there is a work-around that can accomplish a similar action. It requires the use of a wired cable release, such as this one:
https://us.buyolympus.com/remote-cab...se-rm-uc1.html

As you will notice, you can't set the timer and the sequential shooting option, as they are two separate Drive modes that can not be combined. To get around this, you can use the anti-shock feature, found on the Gear E menu. You can set anti shock from 1/8th of a second up to 30 seconds. Set the anti-shock to the length of time you would like to have as a 'timer'. When selecting the drive mode, the anti-shock options have a 'diamond' shape beside the options that can be selected, along with non-anti-shock options. Since anti-shock delays the shooting by the amount of time you selected, make sure to use a non anti-shock drive mode when trying to use the camera normally.

So, with anti shock set (let's say to 8 seconds), and with bracketing set, and with the drive mode set to sequential (with the diamond shape beside it for anti-shock use), you are ready to shoot. So, you would frame your picture, set the lock on the shutter release, and take the picture.

The wired shutter release's purpose in this is that it locks the shutter down so that after the first picture is taken, it will continue to take pictures until it takes all the bracketed photos for that group, and then it stops. You would have to release the lock mechanism on the shutter release to resume normal operation once it is done.

Anti-shock functions as the timer, since the timer can not be selected with the sequential drive as an option too. The only drawback is that if your anti-shock is set to eight seconds, after the first eight seconds he first picture is taken, then the camera would wait another 8 seconds, then take the next shot, and so on. Unfortunately I do not have a solution that would wait for X amount of seconds, then take the bracketed photos all at once.

What I have described here is not in the manual, it is more of an improvised solution I have used in the past, using the least amount of additional accessories possible. I hope this solution works for your particular application."

Very nice of the guy to detail that whole thing, but honestly, if that isn't the most ridiculous way to have to go to set up a simple AEB burst I would hate to see a sillier one.

If you're going to use a cable release anyway, you don't have to go through all that, you just plow through the menus to set up your bracketing, switch to high speed burst mode for the release mode and push the release button on the cable release. It'll all be done in less than a second after you push it.

This is the same method described quite some time ago (works with my E-P1) using a rubberband and a dime (to hold the shutter).

Ross the fiddler · #29 August 7th, 2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobWatson

This is the same method described quite some time ago (works with my E-P1) using a rubberband and a dime (to hold the shutter).

Ah, the good ol' rubber band!

It is the cheapest & still very effective way to get your timed sequence shots (without the cost or having something dangling off the camera).

dre_tech · #30 August 7th, 2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixeyk

This thread is dangerously close to being closed. Keep any further discussion civil and respectful.

It would probably be in everyone's best interest if you do it... Everyone has expressed their methods of achieving AEB sequences.