Hi everyone, I'm picking up my first Voigtlander lens and I'm not sure which one to get. First, here are the current lenses that I have:

Canon FD 50mm f/1.4
Canon FD 28mm f/2.8
Zuiko 17mm f/2.8 (kit)
Panny 20mm f/1.7 (wife's)
Panny 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6 (wife's)

I'm trying to get something that doesn't closely overlap in terms of capabilities with something that I already have (not a lot, really). I'm thinking of picking up something from the following:

Voigtlander Color-Skopar 21mm f/4
Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.4
Voigtlander Nokton 40mm f/1.4

I plan to keep shooting city shots (people, buildings, indoor) and some scenic photography when travelling.

Would appreciate your advice and suggestions. Thanks!

Congrats... You might get addicted... I got the 15mm F/4.5 and picking up the 50 1.1 tomorrow as well...

Since u have the panny 20 i would skip the skopar 21 (although color rendition is better on the voigt).. That said I have read that the 35 is better than the 40 (slightly)... I have tried the 35 and I was extremely happy with it for it's size...

I'm going to say 35 will minimize your overlap and you might never want to take it off.... I was going to get the 35 1.2 as well tomorrow, but I am going to pick up a BESSA R3M instead... I can always get the 35 later.

I've got the 15mm f4.5, 28mm f2 and 50 f1.1. They are all very good lenses and have their own unique characteristics compared to other M mount lenses. They are very sharp and have good contrast, but if anything, I could say that they are a cold lens. My Minolta 90mm and Leica 135mm tend to be warm lenses, but extremely sharp and with great contrast, if any of that makes sense.

In the film days, lenses and film were often compared to the way they provided sharpness, contrast, colour and tonality. Nowadays it's not quite the same, with digital sensors, but you can often talk in a similar language. If you're looking at getting any of the Voigtlander lenses, I'd suggest that you consider the M mount ones, rather than the screw mount, as the first decision point.

The M mount lenses are a later addition and have newer coatings and often will allow the use of filters, as with the 15mm. One of my dealers said to me last year that Voigtlander is moving to make all of their older lenses into M mount and the 12mm is the first of the transitions. Watch out also with the 35mm, as it comes in two different flavours, multi-coated and single-coated. The single-coated lens was designed for B&W film and so isn't the ideal option for digital.

Overall, the Voigtlander lenses are outstanding value for what you get and, in many ways, aren't always that far behind Leica lenses. Mind you, given a bottomless pit of money, I'd go wild with Leica lens purchases.

Cheers

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What about the 75mm 2.5 Heliar? (I don't have this, but have heard very good things about it, and it would give you a nice, somewhat fast mid telephoto.) This is also a range that is a bit weak in the current set of zooms. Otherwise, the 35 would make the most sense in terms of your spread, but that's a very tight group of lenses already. My impression from research is that the 1.7 Ultron (sorry, I'm in 35 land now...) may be a bit nicer than the 1.4 Nokton, but it is discontinued, so not available new, if that's important.

Thanks guys, really appreciate your insights.

@ahuyevshi Going beyond 1.4 is already too pricey for me, so 1.4 will do :D

@OzRay thanks for the suggestion on the mount type suggestion and for sharing your experiences on the ones you have.

@Alan I have a Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 on the way too, so I'll make do with that for now. Best part is it's free :D

the 3 voigtlander lenses i have for my gf1 and ep1 are the 15 4.5, the 28 1.9 and the 50 1.5

for sharpness speed and bokeh the 50 is by far the best, also the silver version on the ep1 wins the micro 4\3 beauty contest, imho

for coolness, small size, and fun factor its , hands down the 15 , it has a very different look and a quickly plunging perspective that make it a unique lens that does not really copy the kit zoom at 30 mm equiv feeling and "look",
the 28 1.9 is just ok wide open , not bad but not sharp as the 50, but its the fastest 28 rf lens in history , on a micro 4\3 body its as close to a fast normal [longish] you are likely to find in the rangefinder stable of small bodied lenses usable on m4\3.

all voigtlander lenses are sensibly priced for the quality they deliver,zeiss and leica are not , i feel

enjoy whatever lens you eventually buy , the voigtlander line is a fine one, you will love the metallic heft and well damped focus action on the the qualiy m4\3s bodies..... something the light plastic af micro 4\3 lenses from panny and oly simply dont provide

Exactly.... The 15 gets put down on a lot of sites on an body... However It is my favorite lens....... DoF is godly

Also remember that for landscapes your going to be stopping down anyway, so imo a fast wide angle isn't necessarily a great thing... I shoot canon as well and the 16-35 I usually end up stopping down to f/4 anyway...

Ah. . . .

The first M-mount replacement that I can think of was the 35/2.5 "pancake", which came after an optically identical screwmount 35/2.5 "pancake" and "classic" (yes, all three have identical arrangements of glass). That was a long time before the M-mount 12 mm lens.

There's a multi-coated and a single-coated version of a single 35mm lens, the f/1.4 (M-mount only). The latter is, I believe, Cosina's only single-coated lens, and you're unlikely to come across it by chance. I hazily remember that one is called "Nokton Classic" and the other "Classic Nokton" (I've no idea which is which).

Every Cosina "Voigtländer" lens I've ever heard of has a filter thread, with the exceptions of the screwmount 12mm (unless you have an adapter) and the screwmount 15mm. But they're so wide that I suspect that a filter would have a high risk of degrading the image from either, used for 36x24mm.

Is there much to the kind of multicoating that's applied to a lens? My impression was that there was a huge leap from uncoated to single coated, and a much smaller one from single coated to multiple coated, and that most of the talk about this or that particular recipe of multicoating (the "SSC" of Canon, etc) had little or no real-world meaning. Certainly I see no point in worrying about the niceties of rival multicoatings (if that used in a newer M-mount lens really is different from that used in an older screwmount) if you're still using the original lens hood, designed for a much wider angle of view than interests the little micro 4/3 sensor.

The dealer you spoke to may have intended to give you a disinterested picture of the truth. But if so, he got it wrong. Further, it would be rash simply to assume that he'd be a disinterested source: it would certainly be in his interest to reduce your interest in lenses available cheaply second hand and increase your interest in lenses available new.

And Noodlehaus, you already have more than enough lenses. Really. But if you insist on getting yet another then consider a Chiyoko Super Rokkor 45/2.8, because it looks kewl (and it's not a bad little lens). Titillating pictures of it here.

supur rokkor is super cool looking,lol .....a striking lens , the little rokkor 45 f2 made for the minolta cle\ leica cl is pretty cool too, and a stop faster too

the screw mount lenses are much cheaper than the m mount voigtlanders, most designs are identical optically, sadly most are discontinued

the real exception is the28 f2 m mount, a redesign that is smaller, a tiny bit slower
but sharper wide open.........

the screw mount lenses can be used perfectly on m mount, but its impossible to use m mount on a screw body.advantage ? screw mount lenses are usable on many screw mount bodies such as older leicas and many fine discontinued voigtlander rangefinder
bodies in the second hand marketplace, the new voightlander m`s cannot