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Old June 17th, 2012, 07:44 AM
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If you go to f.01 assuming it is mathematically possible would you have ANY dof? Or just a very soft crappy image. (for the first question assume that it is very sharp.)

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a little off the topic, I have read both sides comments and it kinda makes me doubt if the 25 0.95 really beats the 25 1.4 in sharpness under the same aperture.
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a little off the topic, I have read both sides comments and it kinda makes me doubt if the 25 0.95 really beats the 25 1.4 in sharpness under the same aperture.
Curious why you thought this comment should be posted in this thread?
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If you go to f.01 assuming it is mathematically possible would you have ANY dof?

The aperture limit for a lens is about f/0.7. You can use the usual DOF equations to see how much (or how little) depth of field that aperture gives.
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Wikipedia has a neat summary of the fastest lenses ever made:
Lens speed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The aperture limit for a lens is about f/0.7. You can use the usual DOF equations to see how much (or how little) depth of field that aperture gives.
Why is that? I'm genuinely curious
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Thanks for starting this thread. I was thinking about this all afternoon after reading the articles on Stanley Kubrick's "Barry Lyndon" in this thread earlier:

Stanley Kubrick - Photographer?

That list on Wikipedia has me wanting to see some of these bizarre lenses, such as the f0.5:

USSRPhoto.com - Russian / Soviet Cameras Wiki Catalog - World's fastest lens

There are some photographs taken with the Rayxar 50mm f0.7 on an EP-1 here:

Hand mit Rayxar 50mm f0,75 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

As the original post suggested: mush!
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Well,
We ***might*** get to see one in action...
--> Mirrorless Rumors | Blog | Impossible may be possible? Nikon f/0.7 lens patent for the Nikon 1 system.
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Why is that? I'm genuinely curious.

I wish I could remember. A university professor who specialised in optics told me some years ago but my memory is like a sieve.

But I have seen the f/0.7 quoted in magazine articles quite a few times since.
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If you go to f.01 assuming it is mathematically possible would you have ANY dof? Or just a very soft crappy image. (for the first question assume that it is very sharp.)
The simple answer: yes.

But there are some practical limits. Lenses become increasingly larger for smaller f-numbers, especially when they need to be used at different object distances. The reason is that the lens diameter is inversely proportional to the f-number. The second reason is that the lower the f-number, the more difficult it is to control the aberrations, and even more glass (extra elements, special glass) is needed for that.

For photo/film purposes, faster than f/0.95 is an extreme rarity. For fixed distance applications (like some technical imaging), f/0.7 does occur. Two imaging areas, however, excel in low f-numbers: microscopy and IC lithography. For both, equipment is available with f-numbers as low as 0.18 to 0.20. But these are highly specialized lenses, with almost fixed magnification and working distance (measured in microns) and typical dof of a few hundred nanometers. That is a thousand times thinner than paper.
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