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May 24th, 2010, 03:49 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mirboo North, Australia
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OzRay's Gallery
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Originally Posted by Jonas B
Canon... yes, they were good back when I bought the Epson and i guess they are good now.
I like the Epson pigment ink images. What is your Canon pigment printer?
I also profile some of the papers I use. I have then sent the prints to a "profiler" but for the future I would like to be able to do the profiling myself. Do you have paper profiling equipment?
Cheers,
Jonas
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The pigment printer is the IPF5000. I use Spyder PrintFix Pro for paper profiling. There are better profilers available nowadays at a pretty reasonable cost, such as X-Rite.
Cheers
Ray
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May 24th, 2010, 04:01 AM
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The pigment printer is the IPF5000. I use Spyder PrintFix Pro for paper profiling. There are better profilers available nowadays at a pretty reasonable cost, such as X-Rite.
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Thank you.
I just checked the Epson R1900 review at Vincent Oliver's place. It's obviously a capable printer but I won't once again buy anything using those small ink cartridges. They are annoying, and at least here in Sweden very expensive.
I'll look around, I can live without the printer... but not very long.
Jonas
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May 24th, 2010, 04:15 AM
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curmedgeon in training
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: 1 hour from Sydney Australia.
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Real Name: Gordon flash's Gallery
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I love me a good print :-)
Gordon
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May 24th, 2010, 04:39 AM
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I print all of my keepers at home using an Epson 3800. I agree with all who state it is not a finished photograph until it is appropriately printed.
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Antonio
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May 24th, 2010, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonas B
I printed my keepers up until last month. At that point my many years old Epson R800 finally broke. That printer has costed me a fortune for the ink, and it has given me a lot of excellent prints in return.
So, I'm in the market for a new printer. What do you recommend? I would like to have at least an A3+ printer capable of good B&W and colour images, making prints that last also if hanging on the wall for years, and that doesn't clog up if not used every week- Ideally there should be a bunch of canned (and working...) profiles for both glossy and matte prints.
Any suggestions? (Maybe I should start a new thread?)
Jonas
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From reading around, and through the experience of some friends, I recommend the Epson 3800. You will pay more for it upfront, than say the 2880, but the larger cartridges will save you serious cash over the long term. In fact, if you subtract the cost of the cartridges that come with it, then the printer is pretty good value.
Of course, I could be just endorsing my own decision here: the 3880 is what I am heading for to replace my R800.
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May 24th, 2010, 09:26 AM
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Printing your work
To me the photographic process is not complete till you hold a print in your hand. There is something to me about looking at a print from different angles and in different lighting that makes a photo pop.
I print the pics that I think might make an interesting part of my portfolio. Some of these go to friends some find their way up on a wall one or two may get entered into a contest or two.
I print on an Epson R2400. I use papers from Epson, Hahnemuhle, Ilford and Moab. I use different papers for different uses mainly Epson and Ilford for portrait use, Hahnemuhle and Moab for landscape and I use Epson exhibition paper for black and white.
One of the nice things about the R2400 is it has 3 black inks which make a black and white print "pop" I recently took a class in which all the other students were shooting film and printing in a dark room. I was the only digital printer. I busted my ass making good prints and they stood up against most of the film prints. It was tough but printing my photos is very rewarding.
I also dislike the small printer cartridges and recently went to a continuous flow ink system. A more expensive initial outlay of cash but much cheaper in the long run.
As far as the brand of printer. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. I have friends that swear by Epson, some that swear at it. Likewise Cannon and HP. It's what you like and what you can afford. The most important part is getting a printer that is not just a consumer printer. They will not give you the artistic prints you want from a printer.
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May 24th, 2010, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas B
I printed my keepers up until last month. At that point my many years old Epson R800 finally broke. That printer has costed me a fortune for the ink, and it has given me a lot of excellent prints in return.
So, I'm in the market for a new printer. What do you recommend? I would like to have at least an A3+ printer capable of good B&W and colour images, making prints that last also if hanging on the wall for years, and that doesn't clog up if not used every week- Ideally there should be a bunch of canned (and working...) profiles for both glossy and matte prints.
Any suggestions? (Maybe I should start a new thread?)
Jonas
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Hard to beat an Epson 3880. More economical than the smaller printers with smaller ink boxes.
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May 24th, 2010, 09:59 AM
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First time I printed some of my better photos last month to enter into a local photo contest. I must say I wasn't prepared for the expense (nearly $500 for printing and framing for 6 16x20 photos!).
I guess I'm not quite sure what to do with printed photos other than enter contests. I don't have enough wall space to put up all my good photos, and I doubt I could give my photos away to friends - not sure what they'd do with them either. They might consider it a non-gift.
So for the moment I just save everything in the hopes that I'll find a purpose for the photos I've taken (other than looking at them every now and then). I find enjoyment in taking the photos more than in admiring them afterward I suppose.
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May 24th, 2010, 10:15 AM
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There are a lot of Epson fans about, but I see Epson in the printer world akin to Canon in the camera world. Weird I know, but go figure.
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A bit off topic, but I am fascinated about how we view different brands. I use Epson because when I was shopping for a printer (2005) the R800 was clearly a leader and still works well for me. My good experience with it would cause me to look there first, but Canon and HP have both made great strides in their printers, and from what I read they are as good in terms of output, perhaps better - and have some features I like.
As for cameras...let's not go there
Last edited by Pelao; May 24th, 2010 at 10:22 AM.
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May 24th, 2010, 10:22 AM
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On the main topic...
I'll confess that my print volume declined a bit for a year or so. Some of this is due to pressure of work, and family - to enjoy my photography fully I need to experiment and print. Time was squeezed and something had to give.
Then recently a bunch of things happened. I found a bunch of prints of photographs taken while on holiday in Nice, and they are a real pleasure. then, I visited some galleries here in Toronto where there is a major photographic festival taking place. Finally, some of the freelance photographers (humanitarian field photographers) I work with were showing me their prints for the same festival.
All this brought me full circle - to me, it's not a complete photographic experience until I see a print.
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